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Re: Problem with heading appearing on new chapter page
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Gavin Smith |
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Re: Problem with heading appearing on new chapter page |
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Fri, 1 May 2020 21:46:39 +0100 |
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On Fri, May 01, 2020 at 09:59:08PM +0200, Sebastian Urban wrote:
> > That looks like it would work but I doubt whether it would be worth
> > adding and documenting it.
>
> As for "worth adding", if someone would be in my situation it would
> help him. He would only has to use different @...heading in his own
> TEXI file, no need to change TEXINFO.TEX. Maybe, as a documentation,
> simple comment in TEXINFO.TEX would be sufficient, e.g. between lines
> I added there is:
>
> % \thischapterheading is the same as \thischapter except it is blank
> % for the first page of a chapter. This is to prevent the chapter name
> % being shown twice.
>
> so put here a similar line about "thissectionheading" and done. Plain
> simple, for "advanced" usage.
For one thing @thischapterheading is not a good name for this. Also
there would have to be similar commands for all the @this* commands
listed in Info node "(texinfo)Custom Headings": @thistitle, etc.
> This would be "good enough" way, below is more desired option.
>
> > It might be better to have an option just to output the page number
> > on new chapter pages rather than adding new commands
> > @thischapterheading, @thissectionheading and so on. At the same
> > time, I doubt how much it would be used.
>
> Hmmm... the thing is predefined headings (@setchapter on, off, odd;
> @headings double) don't put heading (with chapter) on new chapter
> page, only custom @evenheading, @oddheading, @everyheading do. I
> would say that this is at least inconsistency.
>
[...]
>
> So, I think instead of option "just to output the page number", user
> defined heading with @thischapter, @thissection should not appear in
> heading on new chapter page BY DEFAULT. The page number should stay,
> as it was mentioned earlier - for reference.
When I first implemented the hiding of the chapter name I deliberately
left user-defined headings as they were because users may have preferred
the existing behaviour.
> What is worse, they (the latter group) don't do it well, i.e. on new
> chapter page without sections, on which section should be printed in
> heading - heading has only page number (if it was set). This leads to
> sometimes empty (except for the number) headings on new chapter pages
> and worse looking document.
[...]
>
> I'm not sure if 2.5MB is OK for mailing list, so if it's OK and PDF I
> edited will be still needed I will send it in the next e-mail.
> Meanwhile please take a look at official PDF here:
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/pdf/emacs.pdf
> PDF pages 26, 58, 60, 93, 140, 154, 236, 246, 279, 377 and probably it
> happens later as well.
This appears to be a bug. @section isn't involved in the case here: all
the blank headings occur on the last page of the chapter.
I downloaded the Texinfo sources for the Emacs manual from
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/emacs.html and reproduced the
problem. I am working on it.
- Re: Problem with heading appearing on new chapter page, Gavin Smith, 2020/05/01
- Re: Problem with heading appearing on new chapter page, Sebastian Urban, 2020/05/01
- Re: Problem with heading appearing on new chapter page,
Gavin Smith <=
- Re: Problem with heading appearing on new chapter page, Gavin Smith, 2020/05/01
- Re: Problem with heading appearing on new chapter page, Sebastian Urban, 2020/05/02
- Re: Problem with heading appearing on new chapter page, Gavin Smith, 2020/05/07
- Re: Problem with heading appearing on new chapter page, Sebastian Urban, 2020/05/07
- Re: Problem with heading appearing on new chapter page, Gavin Smith, 2020/05/08
- Re: Problem with heading appearing on new chapter page, Sebastian Urban, 2020/05/08
- Re: Problem with heading appearing on new chapter page, Gavin Smith, 2020/05/08
- Re: Problem with heading appearing on new chapter page, Sebastian Urban, 2020/05/08
- Re: Problem with heading appearing on new chapter page, Gavin Smith, 2020/05/09
- Re: Problem with heading appearing on new chapter page, Sebastian Urban, 2020/05/09