Re: Emacs NYC Video Release: Bring Your Text to Life the Easy Way with GNU Hyperbole

[Jean Louis]

* Robert Weiner <rsw@gnu.org> [2020-09-27 22:59]:
> I am still unclear how this list available via {C-h h d w} is not a good
> example of what you are asking for:
> 
> https://www.gnu.org/software/hyperbole/HY-WHY.html
> 
> Maybe you want a set of step-by-step actions but these seem like real-world
> workflows to me.

Yes, I like to know how are you using it practically, and how others
are using it practically.

I am mostly using it within Emacs Lisp and Common Lisp to jump back to
definition of a specific function.

>From examples:

> 1. Create a library of documents, link them on-the-fly and retrieve
>    any one at the touch of a button containing its short id.  See
>    "hib-doc-id.el".  (Use the Action Key to activate any
>    cross-reference herein).

The above example is not really practical, it is not adequately
described. Is there one user who created the "library of documents"?

How should I practically link them on-the-fly?

Let me say that example is complex, and those creating such libraries
and who are able to read Emacs Lisp and understand it all, they may as
well make their own hyperlink system, which also happened to me, my
library is in the database, then I have got my specific way of jumping
into those documents.

Hyperbole I could, if not within Org file, to jump into those links I
have created.

Example #1 is not adequate for me. True example would be if you show
at least 3 files, indexed and one file that is showing cross
references. 

> 2. Action Key click to follow URLs with section links, Markdown
>    links, Emacs outline heading links, Org mode links, file and
>    directory links and program identifier references.
>    See "DEMO#HTML Markdown and Emacs Outline Hash Links".

I follow URLs, that is good. Even though before knowing Hyperbole, I
made F9 to follow URLs.

Markdown links cannot be followed by Hyperbole, I do not know what you
mean. Markdown link is for me something like [Website
name](http://www.example.com) -- so by clicking on URL Hyperbole
works, but by clicking on Website name, it does not work.

Org mode links, I have tried following it, It just cut the line in
half, it did not follow Org link.

> Embed social media hashtags and user names in any text files.  Then
> jump to the associated web page in your favorite web browser with an
> Action Key press.  See "DEMO#Social Media Hashtags and Usernames".

Those networks, in my opinion, should not be hard coded in GNU
software, as I assume Hyperbole is GNU software, as they lead people
to run non-free software on their non-free Javascript websites.

I am somehow against hard coding, any kind of public links.

Good application example on my side is that I looked recently how can
I make Emacs windows equal on screen, and Hyperbole has that function. I am
using XMPP over jabber.el in Emacs, and many windows were of different
sizes, confusing, so that works well.

As I said, I find Hyperbole excellent, it is always here, I am using
it probably not consciously many times, only that I feel alone in that
usage, I would like to know how other people are practically using it.

Jean