[Koha-devel] Re: [Koha-translate] Norwegian translation of Koha

[Thomas Dukleth]

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[Sorry for my late reply.  I intended to reply earlier but a lingering
cold kept me from some things last month.]

On Fri, October 12, 2007 10:42 am, Axel Bojer wrote:

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> We have good news from Norway:
> NUUG ( Norwegian Unix User group, http://nuug.no/ ) have agreed to pay
> two translators to translate koha into norwegian (bokmål, by the way, we
> also have nynorsk :-). So now the next question is:
>
> How far has the translation files for Koha 3.0 come by now? As quoted
> above, they ought to be in good shape now, but, well, delays seems to
> happen, so: How is the status by now? Is it advisable and possible to
> start translating koha 3.0 already now or will there be major changes
> that will render our work (partly) useless?
>
> I also wonder how difficult it will be to make a local build with our
> translations?

The koha-translate list is not read by as many people who should read it
as it ought to be.  I will try to obtain an answer for you about the
current status of Koha 3.0 HTML stability for translation.

> My experiences with other translation project (Scribus, OOo, KDE) shows
> me that it is essential to be able to look at what you have actually
> committed. Often it is impossible to know exactly how to translate a
> spesific phrase without knowing how this function works and/or what the
> GUI looks like.
> It will therefore be important for us to be able to make our own
> localised builds continuously to see the changes and the results.
>
> And third: If all the other questions are answered with «GO FOR IT
> (NOW)», then: Is it possible to put the needed files out on the net like
> this:
> http://translate.koha.org/use.php?lg=en
>
> or do you have pot- and po-files ready for us?
>

While setting up something like "http://translate.koha.org/use.php?lg=en";
may be possible, I suspect that is not likely to happen given other
development priorities.  Although, you could do that yourself using a git
repository clone.  See the Koha git documentation at
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage .

I will press for the current status of po files.

> And, finally, what about the mentioned «MARC frameworks», are there any
> ready made translation files for them?
>

There has never been a proper translation model for frameworks.  A diff
based model at least should be created for future.

At present simply adapt the most current copy of the frameworks in SQL
format for your language.  I recommend carefully editing the most current
Koha frameworks as SQL files using a text editor designed for editing
source code such as vim.  Using the frameworks editor inside Koha is
suitable for small changes but it is too slow and has too many bugs to be
really suitable for translation work.

Whether you are translating current MARC 21 into Norwegian or adapting it
for the similar NORMARC, you should start with the most recent version of
the Koha MARC 21 bibliographic framework,
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/marc21/mandatory/marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sql
.  Use the NORMARC documentation whether you are translating the current
version of MARC 21 or adapting for NORMARC,
http://www.nb.no/fag/kompetansesenter/kunnskapsorganisering/dnk .  Use the
most recent version of Koha MARC 21 authorities framework,
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/marc21/mandatory/authorities_normal_marc21.sql
.

I would be pleased to offer any assistance I can for the frameworks.  I
edited the English frameworks but I do not have any facility with the
language of my ancestors.

Also, I would personally be interested in a formal English translation of
the relatively few NORMARC elements which do not match MARC 21 elements.


Thomas Dukleth
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