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Today's Topics:
1. Random thoughts about a Windows distribution
(Hans Zwakenberg | Ocean Consulting GmbH)
2. Re: Random thoughts about a Windows distribution (Germ?n Arias)
3. Re: Random thoughts about a Windows distribution (Cyril ADRIAN)
4. Re: Random thoughts about a Windows distribution (Cyril ADRIAN)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:32:06 +0200 (CEST)
From: Hans Zwakenberg | Ocean Consulting GmbH
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Subject: [Liberty-eiffel] Random thoughts about a Windows distribution
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Hi group,
as I'm slowly working towards creating a working Windows distribution, some
random thoughts cropped up, that I'd like to discuss:
- Windows programmers generally aren't too keen about languages without any
native GUI support, unless the language is meant for web- or
script-programming
- Windows programmers generally sort of expect that a compiler comes with an
IDE
that shortens edit/compile/test-cycles
It's moot to start a discussion about whether such Win-progger
sentiments are
justified or not, it's just the dynamics of the Windows scene as I
got to know
it.
Since the team is very small, perhaps we should think about the availability
of
either of the above in a cross-platform way:
- are any of the x-platform GUI's wrapped to Eiffel already? (Perhaps
wxWidgets
or some other good library?)
- is there any x-platform editor (perhaps Java-based?) that can be used to
attached scripts to configurable buttons? ("comppile", "make", or whatever,
etc...)
Any suggestion about the above is very welcome indeed! Also any other idea
about easing a newbie's entry into Eiffel - and how to reach him is
welcome. I
suppose that last question is about marketing communications really, but you
get
my drift...
cheers
Hans
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:24:43 -0600
From: Germ?n Arias <address@hidden>
To: Hans Zwakenberg | Ocean Consulting GmbH <address@hidden>
Cc: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Liberty-eiffel] Random thoughts about a Windows
distribution
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Hi,
On 2014-08-20 11:32:06 -0600 Hans Zwakenberg | Ocean Consulting GmbH
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> Hi group,
>
> as I'm slowly working towards creating a working Windows
distribution, some
> random thoughts cropped up, that I'd like to discuss:
>
> - Windows programmers generally aren't too keen about languages
without any
> native GUI support, unless the language is meant for web- or
> script-programming
> - Windows programmers generally sort of expect that a compiler
comes with an
> IDE
> that shortens edit/compile/test-cycles
>
> It's moot to start a discussion about whether such Win-progger sentiments
> are
> justified or not, it's just the dynamics of the Windows scene as I got to
> know
> it.
>
> Since the team is very small, perhaps we should think about the
availability
> of
> either of the above in a cross-platform way:
> - are any of the x-platform GUI's wrapped to Eiffel already? (Perhaps
> wxWidgets
> or some other good library?)
I was looking this too. There is:
http://fox-toolkit.org/
Seem still in development. It have a wrapper for Eiffel here:
http://eiffelfox.sourceforge.net/
But this is unmaintained. No idea if this could be hard to update.
> - is there any x-platform editor (perhaps Java-based?) that can be used to
> attached scripts to configurable buttons? ("comppile", "make", or
whatever,
> etc...)
This could be done easily with Emacs. I can help with this.
Germ?n.
>
> Any suggestion about the above is very welcome indeed! Also any other idea
> about easing a newbie's entry into Eiffel - and how to reach him
is welcome.
> I
> suppose that last question is about marketing communications
really, but you
> get
> my drift...
>
> cheers
> Hans
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 08:57:38 +0200
From: Cyril ADRIAN <address@hidden>
To: Germ?n Arias <address@hidden>
Cc: Hans Zwakenberg | Ocean Consulting GmbH <address@hidden>,
Eiffel <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Liberty-eiffel] Random thoughts about a Windows
distribution
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Hi,
2014-08-20 21:24 GMT+02:00 Germ?n Arias <address@hidden>:
> > - is there any x-platform editor (perhaps Java-based?) that can be used
> to
> > attached scripts to configurable buttons? ("comppile", "make", or
> whatever,
> > etc...)
>
> This could be done easily with Emacs. I can help with this.
There is already Emacs support in Liberty Eiffel. Any help with expanding
it would be really welcome.
Cheers
Cyril
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 08:59:29 +0200
From: Cyril ADRIAN <address@hidden>
To: "Hans Zwakenberg | Ocean Consulting GmbH" <address@hidden>
Cc: Eiffel <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Liberty-eiffel] Random thoughts about a Windows
distribution
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2014-08-20 19:32 GMT+02:00 Hans Zwakenberg | Ocean Consulting GmbH <
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> - is there any x-platform editor (perhaps Java-based?) that can be used to
> attached scripts to configurable buttons? ("comppile", "make", or
> whatever, etc...)
eclipse?
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