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Re: [lp-ca-on] draft TPP by riding connection service


From: Bob Jonkman
Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] draft TPP by riding connection service
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 18:45:22 -0400
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The LibrePlanet Ontario on 24 April 2016 meeting was partially
recorded, available at
http://sobac.com/LUGs/LibrePlanetOntario/2016-04-24-MumbleMeeting/
There are two raw audio .wav files (251 MBytes + 159 MBytes), and one
.ogg file (38 MBytes, 44m 3s) with silences truncated.

- --Bob.



On 2016-04-30 04:11 PM, Greg Knittl wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> At the meetup on April 24th Blaise, Bob and I discussed what we 
> might do about the TPP. Since the TPP hearings seem to be limited 
> to 12 speakers each, my thought was to visit our MPs in person. 
> This is best done with a small group of constituents instead of 
> individually. Most groups active on the TPP appear to be organized 
> nationally or regionally. I would like to propose a service to 
> connect people interested in meeting their MPs on the TPP. This 
> might extend to meeting MPPs, municipal officials etc.
> 
> Here's a draft proposal for your comments. For example do you know 
> any other efforts to already do this. Offers to help with the 
> (bash) scripting. I'm thinking 1 SQLite table to hold the list. I 
> have some bash script for sending emails from the command line
> that I used years ago. I don't have an immediate solution to
> automating the incoming mail but I'm sure it can be done. I am new
> to LibrePlanet Ontario but I have supported the Free Software 
> Foundation for some time. I would be fine to do this as part of 
> LibrePlanet Ontario or not. The TPP affects so many groups that it 
> might be more effective for me to do this with no official 
> involvement from LibrePlanet Ontario.
> 
> To share your email with others in your riding who want to act 
> locally on the TPP send me an email with subject TPP riding or PTP
>  circonscription and your federal riding in English or French. In
> my case that would be: TPP riding Scarborough--Guildwood or PTP 
> circonscription Scarborough--Guildwood
> 
> Please note I've cut and pasted the riding name from 
> http://www.lop.parl.gc.ca/ParlInfo/compilations/houseofcommons/memberb
ypostalcode.aspx
>
>
> 
That's it. I don't need your name to connect you and will not load
> it into the list. I will keep emails on file as proof of 
> authorization so if you don't want me to have your name at all 
> please remove it from your email. If you are joining by email I 
> assume you have access to the internet and I expect you to look up 
> your riding. When passing out paper contact sheets at TPP related 
> events I will accept your postal code if you don't know your 
> riding. I will retain the paper sheets as proof of authorization 
> but only load the riding onto the list.
> 
> I will send an open address email to everyone in your riding from 
> the list. It will be up to you to establish contact with each
> other by email and take whatever steps you deem necessary to set up
> a meeting with your MP.
> 
> Expected use of your email - to send you the emails of other
> people who want to act on the TPP in your riding - to email you
> about potential enhancements to the process such as decentralizing
> the list, setting up cross riding coordinators etc. any changes
> will be opt-in - to email you about TPP resources related to acting
> in your riding e.g. People with TPP knowledge from outside your
> riding that are willing to attend your meetings, sample questions
> for your MP etc - statistics. email counts by riding. For example
> people may want to know many others are active in their riding
> before signing up. I will also track the date I add your email to
> the list so there may be email counts by add date as well. If you
> let me know about your meetings I will at least keep track of the
> number of MP visits. I will share statistics with groups active on
> the TTP and use them to publicize the database. You should expect
> the statistics to be public.
> 
> My commitments: - to remove your email from my active list at any 
> time send me an email with subject line TPP remove or PTP retirer 
> from the email you signed up with. I do expect to take backups and 
> I will not guaranty removing your information from the backups. -
> I will enforce only one riding per email. - the expected uses do
> not include giving out the overall list to other groups active on
> the TPP. The expected uses do not include giving you the emails
> for nearby ridings or any emails I have for key MPs like Christina 
> Freeland. At my discretion and if time permits the most I can do
> is send requests to the list on your behalf. My hope is that you
> will be able to network across ridings through existing TPP groups.
> - to get your approval to use your email for anything beyond the 
> expectations listed above.
> 
> Caveats - I can not guaranty emails. They can be spoofed, It's
> easy to create multiple emails etc. - Anyone that really wants to
> get your email from the list can create an email I don't already
> have and send me a sign up request for your riding. - I expect
> other people in your riding to treat your email with respect but I
> can't guaranty that others in your riding will get your agreement
> to circulate your email beyond your riding. Lobbying your MP is a 
> political process and it has to operate in public to some degree.
> - The TPP affects many groups and I hope to cast a fairly wide net 
> all across Canada. Take appropriate precautions when meeting
> people in real life. - You are welcome to email me with feedback
> about your MP meetings, feedback on the process, questions,
> suspected abuse of the process etc. but I'm a finite resource and I
> can make no commitment to respond in any way. I'd be glad to share
> the work. I hope that others will collect emails for the list and
> feed them to me and even volunteer to maintain lists for one or
> more ridings in which case I would encourage new signups for those
> ridings to join the local lists. - I reserve the right to remove
> emails from the list at my sole discretion
> 
> Tips and Hints
> 
> If meeting your MP seems intimidating then your MP would likely be 
> fine with you bringing in a TPP active person from outside the 
> riding. I intend to target groups that are active on the TPP so I 
> expect people to reach back to the groups already active on the
> TPP to get any assistance they might need in preparing for the
> meeting. However, the TPP is huge and MPs have a lot of other
> issues on their plate. Even modest research on your part will
> likely allow you to educate your MP about aspects of the TPP they
> weren't aware of.
> 
> Consider the potential for follow-on meetings. You may want to 
> structure questions for the meeting so that your MP promises to
> get back to you. There may be new people active in the riding
> after your initial meeting that want to visit their MP. There's
> lots to discuss!
> 
> to look up your riding: 
> http://www.lop.parl.gc.ca/ParlInfo/compilations/houseofcommons/memberb
ypostalcode.aspx
>
>
> 
> 
> a few people and groups of the many active on the TPP in Canada: 
> http://www.michaelgeist.ca/ http://canadians.org/trade 
> https://act.openmedia.org/finalbattle
> 
> Greg
> 
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