Re: [lp-ca-on] Proposed Proof of Concept Tax Calculation

[Greg Knittl]

Hi Daniel,

There's not much info on the democamp page or http://www.websred.com/
You would have to contact the company directly. It would certainly be 
interesting
to review their design but it's not advertised as open source. It would 
be interesting
to know if they have developer agreement with the CRA and what the terms 
are.
I'm not sure why they would be motivated to help us. We might be 
potential competitors...
If we can crowd source the T1, it ought to be possible to crowd source 
the R&D reporting...
I'm in Toronto not Hamilton. But if you can think of a way to approach 
them, then go for it.
We need all the allies we can get.
I would be more curious about other Libre Software tax packages around 
the world.

I haven't had any response from the CRA on getting the developer 
agreement so I
have to follow up on that. It may end up taking a concerted effort just 
to get the
agreement to review. Then I expect the terms of the agreement will be 
problematic.
How can free software possibly restrict users to 20 returns/per computer?
The CRA would have to implement that restriction from it's end. How 
would they even
do that? The CRA doesn't give out Net File codes any more...
When the user has complete access to the source code they ought to be 
able to spoof any identification system.
Perhaps every user that wants the source code to the CRA interface code 
has to also complete the CRA developer agreement...
How would we know if people are CRA developers or not? Is the CRA going 
to tell us? How would this fit with the GPL?
The software will be gratis. Users could just put it on multiple 
computers. I'm hoping it will be low resource and suitable for Raspberry 
Pi or less.
I don't know what the CRA is thinking but it doesn't seem very libre. We 
need to get the developer agreement.

Greg

On 16-06-08 11:25 PM, Daniel Villarreal wrote:
> Might the following be helpful ?
>
> http://www.softwarehamilton.com/democamp/democamphamilton24/
>
> *Demo 4 "*WebSRED software-as-a-service to automate R&D tax credit capture
> and reporting."
>
> regards,
>
> Daniel
> This isn't signed because a hard-drive crashed and I haven't gotten
> everything back together yet.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Greg Knittl <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> > ... CRA is going to be a complex project...
> > We can still advance on paper filing while we struggle with opening the
> > CRA interfaces. That's going to require a design document....
> > Along with the design document is a proof of concept sample problem
> > specs....people might want to start collaborating...
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > [...]
> > - -------- Original Message --------
> > > > <http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/esrvc-srvce/tx/bsnss/crpnt/sftwr-eng.html>
> > > ...
> > http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/esrvc-srvce/tx/bsnss/crpnt/sftwr-eng.html
> > > >   ... The paper/PDF forms are usually available around the beginning of
> > > > January ...
> > > > The limit of 20 returns per computer could be interesting... We may have
> > > > to start with paper filing while we
> > > > fight the battles to open up the CRA's interfaces.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, the constant changes to the calculations are why my intuition is
> > > > that the tax calculations have to be externalized as some kind of
> > > > formula language so the changes can be crowd sourced [...]
> > > Greg
> > > [...]