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From: | Jbumstead |
Subject: | Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Golden Rule Angle for Libre Software Advocacy |
Date: | Thu, 18 Aug 2016 12:18:28 -0400 |
-------- Original Message --------Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Golden Rule Angle for Libre Software AdvocacyLocal Time: August 16, 2016 4:55 PMUTC Time: August 16, 2016 9:55 PMFrom: nthomas@techlibre.netTo: chrisbuell1998@gmail.com,the@otherrealm.org,jokeefe@jamesokeefe.org,alex@warrantless.org,muskanassery@gmail.com,mo@thetechnoskeptic.com,jbumstead@protonmail.comlibreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.orgOn August 16, 2016 2:49:37 PM GMT-05:00, christopher Lucy <chrisbuell1998@gmail.com> wrote:Plse keep us up on this thread it has huge privacy & ethical considerations not to mention wellness issues..CLucy restore 4thOn Tuesday, August 16, 2016, Aaron E-J <the@otherrealm.org> wrote:If an open source device is modified by the end consumer and this consumer does not know what they are doing, in the medical field this can have life threatening consequences. People who do not understand what it means for something to be open source could take a press release about such a scenario and run with it; saying that this is a reason for keeping code a secret. Such a program needs for the devices themselves to be very secure and un-hackable, but for the method by which the devices are made and the source code to be open. There is tremendous potential for a bridge to be formed between the users of the technologies and their development.
I was working on a project to develop an open source electrical muscle stimulation device with the initial use going towards the development of a gait retraining system. This is currently on hold, but I would be interested in working with other people in starting an open source medical device organization geared towards developing new devices and advocating for a more libre healthcare system.
You can read more details about the device I was developing on my website: otherrealm.org
Let me know if you are interested in such an organization or if you know of existing organizations with this focus.
Aaron E-J
http://otherrealm.org
http://theotherrealm.org (Blog)On 2016-08-13 2:24 PM, Marcos Marado wrote:> > I won't go as far as to talk about robotic bodies, but the issue is pertinent today, with current technology. > > I recently read about a woman who has a pacemaker. It had a software bug, which frightened her. She knows /of/ it but she doesn't know it, since she doesn't have access to the software running on her own body. Furthermore, she found out that there is a functionality in it to accept OTA updates, which she cannot control. Scary. And this is not science fiction, this is a real case, current technology. > > Unfortunately I don't recall where I read about this, but it was in the last couple of weeks. On FSFE's newsletter, maybe? > > Anyway, the question can be rephrased to "how ethical it is to implant non-free software on someone's body?". > > Best regards, > -- > Marcos Marado > ANSOL.org > > > On Aug 12, 2016 16:42, "Logan Streondj" <streondj@gmail.com <mailto:streondj@gmail.com>> wrote: >Hi,I recently gave a presentation[1] on my libreware project, and someonesaid they really liked the Golden Rule angle of reincarnating as a robot.The typical example I've often read advocating for libreware is thecar analogy, where you have access to your cars internals. This was agreat analogy when cars didn't have loads of proprietary softwareinstalled -- unfortunately it is only increasing because ofself-driving cars.However now as we get closer to the twenty twenties, when theprocessing of a human brain should be affordable for a $1000.The analogy I use now is:"When you reincarnate as a robot, do you want to be enslaved byproprietary software and hardware, or be liberated by libre softwareand hardware?"Anyways wondering what you guys think of this angle,and if you might use it also.I have more detailed slides in my presentation[1].[1] my presentation SPEL and GI-OS overview (CC-BY-SA): PDFhttp://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/ <http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/presentation.pdf virtual-machine/manual/ presentation.pdf> source TEX:wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation. <http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/tex virtual-machine/manual/ presentation.tex> > > ____ > > Freeform discussion: irc.gnu.org <http://irc.gnu.org> #fsf > Sharing news and links: #fsfct https://microca.st/fsf & https://status.fsf.org/fsf > How to use this list: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Rapid_ <https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Responders/Workflow Group:LibrePlanet_Rapid_ >Responders/Workflow> The medical device issue proves just how important it is for Free Software to overcome the slavery by design in closed technologies.The same losses inflicted on humanity's advancement by legacy concepts of intellectual property will persist and amplify in this area.The pharmaceutical and medical device industry already enjoy protections in the EU/US that media companies only dream of. Planned Obselenity (Tivo-ization) is one pharma lacks. Closing device design and software on anything inside or installed on a human overcomes that. The only remaining obstacle in med-tech will be externalities. Think: Nvidia eye replacements for the blind.Imagine being a citizen of Country A using Country B's closed source pacemaker. Much more complex machines are already "weaponized" maybe a few less Country A people means cheaper petroleum or a faster end to a conflict. Think: Bin Ladden with a remote controllable dialysis machine.In relation to the danger of opening control to the user being life-threatening, that's true of any technology since the stone age. Knowing how to safely build a fire for others, that's like a free software job. :)To address the issue of slavery, closed technology is slavery. Most of those using Microsoft, Google, or Facebook have no idea what the EULA or Licences mean. They've been socially engineered into generating data for free (gratis). Working without pay is slavery even if one is entertained. Moreover, very few can even imagine their life without Windows or Facebook. They're addicted. That works so much better than shackles and whips. Could they quit even if they wanted to? Where's the digital underground railroad?The torture of the past has been surpassed (for the most part) with psychological techniques. The level of surveillance, state violence, and social control have increased.Directly telling someone they are digitally enslaved is a hard sell, but I'm very concerned that medical coercion will soon be even more prevalent. Think: Microsoft Health XP home edition. Plug and play! Until we pull the plug.--TechLibre.net Where your technology finds liberty.TEFL certified English TeacherRegistered GNU/Linux User #491032Registered Ubuntu User #27631
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