[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news
From: |
Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic |
Subject: |
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news |
Date: |
Fri, 26 Aug 2016 22:26:42 +0300 |
User-agent: |
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.8.0 |
On 26.08.2016 21:48, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) wrote:
> It seems the problem is the meaning of “libre” in terms of unreleased
> hardware/software. EOMA68 certainly is aligned with libre culture and
> significant for freedom because of its modularity standard. It also is
> GPL-compliant like any unreleased product, but this does not mean much.
You're mixing so many concepts here.
> I believe the claim that it is “free from the very beginning” is
> imprecise but not deceptive
I disagree, since that claim has made people believe it's already libre
hardware (as news articles prove). Which is not. The exception is
actually the computer itself.
> and *not a problem* if all available sources
> will eventually be released.
Well, if it's not true that said hardware is libre hardware now (or
since "the very beginning" until now) and we consider it "not a problem"
if at some unspecified point in time it's going to be libre hardware,
than we are justifying the practice of falsely marketing hardware as
free-design hardware. And the same logic ("not a problem") can apply to
GPL-violaters who at some point in time they comply with GPL.
> A clear promise to release what is missing would seem fair though.
A clear deadline for the release is what's needed. Previously I have
compiled a list of demands for this crowdfunded project backed by the users:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/re-dev-misleading-information-eoma68-news#comment-101927
Copying them here:
Here is what I think backers should do:
1. Demand a clear deadline for the release of the circuit design sources
under a free license.
2. Demand to stop promoting their Computer as "libre hardware" until
they release the circuit design sources under a free license.
3. Demand the Computer is shipped to them along with the circuit design
sources under a free license, even though the shipping is done before
the official deadline.
4. Demand the above conditions are met for further backing the
crowdfunding campaign.
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, (continued)
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, John Sullivan, 2016/08/25
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, John Sullivan, 2016/08/25
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic, 2016/08/25
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Paul Kocialkowski, 2016/08/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic, 2016/08/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Ali Razeen, 2016/08/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic, 2016/08/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Ali Razeen, 2016/08/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic, 2016/08/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz), 2016/08/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news,
Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic <=
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo, 2016/08/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic, 2016/08/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Eric Schultz, 2016/08/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic, 2016/08/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Ali Razeen, 2016/08/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic, 2016/08/26
- Message not available
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic, 2016/08/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Adonay Felipe Nogueira, 2016/08/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Adonay Felipe Nogueira, 2016/08/25
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic, 2016/08/25