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Re: libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 134, Issue 12


From: Heriberto Tianguistengo Miranda
Subject: Re: libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 134, Issue 12
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 19:26:58 -0500

   How could I use BBB in más iOS bug sur 11.4?

   El El dom, 27 de junio de 2021 a la(s) 11:01 a.m.,
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        1. Re: MS Teams and Windows 11 (Paul Sutton)
        2. Re: MS Teams and Windows 11 (Federico Leva (Nemo))
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     Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 07:10:43 +0100
     From: Paul Sutton <[6]paulsutton@disroot.org>
     To: [7]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
     Subject: Re: MS Teams and Windows 11
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     On 26/06/2021 08:04, Jean Louis wrote:
     > * Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
     <[9]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> [2021-06-26 10:02]:
     >> In the mean time,
     >>
     >> [10]https://test.bigbluebutton.org/
     >>
     >> is a useful link to allow people to try out Big Blue Button,
     lets promote
     >> the alternatives, of course there is also [11]jit.si but BBB is
     designed for
     >> education,  esp as if a BBB instance can be hosted in different
     >> jurisdictions (such as in the EU/UK) then the GDPR apples.
     >>
     >> Just thought I would highlight this.  If a barrier to people
     using free and
     >> open source software is a perceived lack of tools,  is it due to
     the lack of
     >> tools or lack of awareness of alternatives.   Most people have
     never heard
     >> of Big Blue Button or Jit.si for example.
     >
     > There is also OpenMeetings
     >
     > Apache OpenMeetings Project – Installation
     > [12]https://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html
     >
     > Jean
     >
     > Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns:
     > [13]https://www.fsf.org/campaigns
     >
     > In support of Richard M. Stallman
     > [14]https://stallmansupport.org/
     >
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     Thanks for this, having a range of options is a good thing, I will
     make
     a blog post that links to all 3.  To at least promote the
     alternatives.
        Granted this is a personal blog butt if it helps to spread the
     word
     then that is a good thing surely.
     Paul
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     Message: 2
     Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 12:24:26 +0300
     From: "Federico Leva (Nemo)" <[20]nemowiki@gmail.com>
     To: Paul Sutton <[21]paulsutton@disroot.org>, Paul Sutton via
             libreplanet-discuss
     <[22]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
     Subject: Re: MS Teams and Windows 11
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     Il 26/06/21 10:01, Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss ha scritto:
     >
     > I am not sure if the FSF legal department can take a look at this,
     as it
     > may be something that the FSF, FSFE, EFF and others need to
     scrutinize
     > to see if there is a violation in competition law.
     AFAIK the European Commission is "looking at it" since last year.
     «The European Commission confirmed it received the complaint and
     said it
     will “assess it under our standard procedure.”  Slack General
     Counsel
     David Schellhase told reporters that the company is also “having
     conversations with relevant U.S.” authorities,” adding it’s not
     ruling
     out actions in other jurisdictions.  “Microsoft is reverting to past
     behavior,” said Schellhase in the statement. The company “created a
     weak, copycat product and tied it to their dominant Office product,
     force installing it and blocking its removal, a carbon copy of their
     illegal behavior during the browser wars.”»
     [24]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-22/slack-takes-o
     n-rival-microsoft-with-antitrust-complaint-to-eu
     The idea that Teams is "a copycat product" is a distraction (Slack
     is
     just one chat system like dozens others), but the tie-in argument
     has teeth.
     Federico
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  10. https://test.bigbluebutton.org/
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