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Re: Solutions to help organisations mirror their antisocial media posts


From: Yuchen Pei
Subject: Re: Solutions to help organisations mirror their antisocial media posts to mastodon?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2023 08:54:03 +1100
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On 25 December 2023 19:15:23 GMT+11:00, Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss 
<libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> wrote:
>I have been using fediverse for a number of years, so maybe to address a few 
>points here:
>
>1. To me, the purpose of a bot account is to usually facilitate the sharing of 
>say a blog post to the Fediverse services. However those posts still need 
>interaction.
>
>You can follow my blog via activity pub, but if you reply I can see that reply 
>from my account and reply. Surely this works equally if the fsf make a post, I 
>reply and someone then interacts with my post, esp if asking a question or 
>just saying 'good work' to the latest video for example.
>
>The interactions on Mastodon for example are far better than what I 
>experienced on main stream social media.
>
>I am not sure where the term 'anti social media' has come from, federated 
>services are still social media, just built on a more decentralized, privacy 
>friendly model.
>
>"but a bridge/client on mastodon to xitter should simply be able to allow users
>
>to subscribe to any xitter accounts they like, get their posts,
>comment/boost them etc without filtering/promotion by xitter."
>
>From what I can gather looking at Mastodon posts about X, is that it is a 
>toxic , far right cesspit,

Not really. There are plenty of people with reasonable things to say on xitter 
who for whatever reason stayed there.

> so being able to follow posts on there could be controversial, Meta has plans 
> for Threads to federate, however the opinion on the fediverse is do we want 
> to give Meta access to our data, posts which so if this does happen Threads 
> could find it can only interact with a few instances OR is de federated fully.
>
>If you are going to join the fediverse, then maybe one needs to be on there 
>and interact with people and followers.
>
>On the subject of what is happening, there are people stuck on mainstream 
>platforms as this is where their followers are, but as Twitter and now 
>Substack are seen as very toxic people are trying to leave.
>
>For most people this is probably easy for people who rely on social media to 
>promote their (source of income) , they risk losing (and do lose) a huge chunk 
>of income if they leave, so they have to stay on toxic platforms where they 
>don't feel safe. They are really stuck.
>
>There does seem to be a need to address this.
>
>Paul
>
>>>>> Fediverse doesn't seem to like bots and mirrorring accounts much, and
>>>>> this is what this creates.  I don't like much that it gives Xitter more
>>>>> visibility and power,
>>>> How does it give Xitter more visibility and power?
>>> Their power to filter/promote and thus influence gets extended further,
>>> onto the Fediverse.
>> Hold on a moment. AFAIK if you check a xitter account on nitter, or
>> follow multiple xitter accounts through Squawker, you get a timeline
>> which is a anti-chronological list of posts by these accounts with no
>> dodgy algorithm. I don't know what it is like on xitter itself, but a
>> bridge/client on mastodon to xitter should simply be able to allow users
>> to subscribe to any xitter accounts they like, get their posts,
>> comment/boost them etc without filtering/promotion by xitter.
>> 
>>> [... 4 lines elided]
>> Best,
>> Yuchen
>> 
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