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Re: tie over clef change
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David Kastrup |
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Re: tie over clef change |
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Sun, 27 Sep 2020 20:11:46 +0200 |
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Lukas-Fabian Moser <lfm@gmx.de> writes:
>> I seem to remember that even in Bach's B minor mass (where E12 was not
>> yet a thing) there is an enharmonic tie (or at least tonal repetition?)
>> in the transition from "Confiteor" to "Et expecto". I mean, that
>> transition is a tonal center nightmare anyway.
>
> In bar 138:

> Basically that is an example of enharmonic equivalence of diminished
> 7th chords: The tonal centre in the preceding bars is clearly d (d
> major with hints of d minor), so the diminished chord in bar 138 is
> most probably first heard as f♯-a-c-e♭ (with expected resolution to g
> minor), but is then being re-interpreted (and written) as f♯-a-b♯-d♯,
> resolving to c♯ major functioning as a dominant to f♯ minor.
>
> My point is: Even without E12 tuning, this is clearly an example of
> fully exploited enharmonic equivalence used as a "wormhole" in an
> otherwise purely diatonic tonal system. There can be no question that
> this is semantically a tie.
Thanks for digging this up: I knew there was something like that in
there.
--
David Kastrup
- Re: tie over clef change, (continued)
- Re: tie over clef change, Werner LEMBERG, 2020/09/26
- Re: tie over clef change, Hans Åberg, 2020/09/26
- Re: tie over clef change, Kevin Barry, 2020/09/26
- Re: tie over clef change, Hans Åberg, 2020/09/26
- Re: tie over clef change, David Kastrup, 2020/09/27
- Re: tie over clef change, Lukas-Fabian Moser, 2020/09/27
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David Kastrup <=
- Re: tie over clef change, Hans Åberg, 2020/09/27
- Re: tie over clef change, David Kastrup, 2020/09/27
- Re: tie over clef change, Hans Åberg, 2020/09/27
- Re: tie over clef change, Benkő Pál, 2020/09/28
- Re: tie over clef change, Lukas-Fabian Moser, 2020/09/28
- Re: tie over clef change, Hans Åberg, 2020/09/27
- Re: tie over clef change, David Kastrup, 2020/09/27
- Re: tie over clef change, Hans Åberg, 2020/09/27
- Re: tie over clef change, Kevin Barry, 2020/09/27
- Re: tie over clef change, Hans Åberg, 2020/09/27