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From: | Martín Rincón Botero |
Subject: | Re: docs about Rest vertical position |
Date: | Sat, 3 Sep 2022 11:13:42 +0200 |
Would you mind putting a short example of what you mean? Also in which musical context? Jazz perhaps?When composing; arranging it happens often that a note is skipped (read: turned into a ‘rest’). Think about note patterns what repeat, with small variations. Then the note/rest does the job perfectly. The pattern is kept. The rest is exactly on the place the note would have been.
My two cents:
Tweaking the position is fine to avoid a collision or to keep a rest about the same “viewing” line then the notes of a phrase
But, or better And:When composing; arranging it happens often that a note is skipped (read: turned into a ‘rest’). Think about note patterns what repeat, with small variations. Then the note/rest does the job perfectly. The pattern is kept. The rest is exactly on the place the note would have been.In fact a very well musical solution.
Met vriendelijke groet, Eef
H.E. Weenink MBA
Op 2 sep. 2022 om 21:33 heeft Martín Rincón Botero <martinrinconbotero@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
Hi Kieren,
how do you think that this feature is more useful than \tweaking the y-offset? If the documentation explains how to move a rest, the officially recommended way should be using \tweak in my opinion. It's unclear to me what's the use case of the option of adding a note to a \rest (which in itself sounds like a contradiction). If we follow the WSIWYM paradigm, you can't possibly mean to put a "note-rest" somewhere. Perhaps not pointing that out or removing the feature altogether is better in the long run?
Martín.
Hi all, I was answering a user's question on the FB group, and noted that in the docs, we suggest “To explicitly specify a rest’s vertical position, write a note followed by \rest.” While this is a useful thing to know about, I don't personally believe it's a best practice: it mixes content with presentation, it doesn't play well with \transpose, etc. I'm not necessarily suggesting that we avoid pointing out this feature. I'm just wondering if anyone else agrees that we should point out the downsides, and give alternative ways of accomplishing the same task? If so, I can put together some draft verbiage for a discussion starting point. Cheers, Kieren.
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