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Re: LYNX-DEV Treatment of ­ ?
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Klaus Weide |
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Re: LYNX-DEV Treatment of ­ ? |
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Sun, 13 Apr 1997 15:17:22 -0500 (CDT) |
On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Nikhil Nair wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Klaus Weide wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Nikhil Nair wrote:
> >
> > > [Problem that ` ­ ' displays as ` ', except when at the end of
> > > the line, when it displays as ` -'.]
> >
> > No, it is not a bug... RFC 2070 HTML Internationalization has this to
> > say: [ snipped ]
>
> Ah, I see. That sounds perfectly reasonable. What is the correct
> behaviour when the ­ makes up a word on its own? Technically, you
> can't split an empty word, can you? :-)
That sounds like a good argument :)
I would think that technically a ­ character which is not in a word
is an incorrect use.
> More importantly, how do the
> graphical browsers (Netscape Navigator and MS Explorer) handle this?
I think none of them do the right thing.
> The trouble is, this is used extensively in The Times and the Sunday Times
> newspapers.
Please give some example URLs.
> I could ask them to change this if it's incorrect HTML, but
It is not even a matter of HTML, but of the underlying character set
standards...
> they may be unwilling if the graphical browsers cope OK with it ....
Well it seems Netscape have invented their own _HTML tag_ <WBR> for this
purpose which is _already covered by the character set_. Make a guess
what that indicates about their willingness to support the
Internationalisation RFC...
> If
> it's the case that the others use a nonstandard behaviour for this, might
> it be possible for the next version of Lynx to include this behaviour,
> possibly as a configuration option?
It could be resonable (as a form of error recovery) to show a hyphen
character when ­ is used outside of a word. Of course I don't
know what Fote thinks about this (who implemented the SOFT_HYPHEN
logic). There is also no guarantee that people who misuse ­ to
get some graphically different sort of hyphen will only use it outside
of words But Lynx should at least deal with any occurrence within a word
in the correct way - after all somebody may be using ­ who actually
knows what it is supposed to do.
> I'm finding it rather difficult to
> read sentences in which the dashes are just omitted in the speech ...
You should still try to talk to those people to clue them in. I haven't
seen those pages, but I doubt that they need that misuse of ­ for
anything that is otherwise impossible to achieve.
Klaus
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