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Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks
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Christian Lohmaier |
Subject: |
Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks |
Date: |
Wed, 22 May 2002 13:36:16 +0200 |
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Mutt/1.2.5i |
Hi Charles,
On Sat, May 18, 2002 at 04:30:40PM -0700, Charles Kerr wrote:
> On Sat, May 18, 2002 at 10:29:11PM +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> > On Sat, May 18, 2002 at 12:05:44PM -0700, Charles Kerr wrote:
>
> > Why care about the size of menus when these are only used occassionaly
> > since everything is usually done with keyboard-shortcuts?
> > You can have nested menus so that the items that aren't used very often
> > are accessible via the menu in a reasonable way and the 'usually by
> > keyboard'-ones go into the nested one (understand what I'm trying to
> > say?) - They don't even have to appear in the menu at all.
>
> Because new users matter too.
:-( Where would emacs stand if the developers thought about new users?
Maybe a very bad comparison, but I think it's better to provide useful
enhancements that can speed up reading news a lot than to concentrate on
a clean user-interface for beginners.
> Because everyone has different opinions on what is frequently used.
That's right, I can't disagree.
> Because each one of these functions adds code that has to be maintained.
Another point for you
> Because if they' don't appear in the menu, nobody will know about them.
I (and lot of former pan-users know about them ;-) and furthermore there
is the shortcut-page...
> Because I *hate* nested menus. ;)
So why sid you place the newsservers in a nested menu ;->?
At last it's your decision. And I didn't mean to be offending or
something - maybe misunderstood because english isn't my native
language.
> > > Adding `select subthread' and `select thread' to the menu, so that they
> > > can be used in combination with any of the article commands, effectively
> > > adds new features while making the menus smaller.
> >
> > Well, this seems like an ugly workaround to me. But better than without
> > this option. The same applies to 'get new headers for subscribed Groups'
> > I liked having a single combination to get things going.
>
> "get new for subscribed" is probably the single command that everyone would
> agree is "frequently used",
Executed after every start of pan and maybe every 30 Minutes..
> so I could be talked into putting it back in.
Fine.
But I (personally) use(d) 'mark thread read' a lot more.
> But I'd be more amenable to moving the "get-new-subscribed-on-startup"
> checkbox from the Preferences dialog into a menu where it's easier for new
> users to find.
Please don't do so. This is a setting thats 'created for being put in a
preferences-dialog' (IMHO)
ciao
Christian
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, (continued)
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, Roi Dayan, 2002/05/18
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, John J . LeMay Jr ., 2002/05/18
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, Kevin, 2002/05/18
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, Roi Dayan, 2002/05/19
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, Roi Dayan, 2002/05/19
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, Charles Kerr, 2002/05/18
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, Christian Lohmaier, 2002/05/18
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, Charles Kerr, 2002/05/18
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, James Hawtin, 2002/05/18
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, sam ende, 2002/05/18
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks,
Christian Lohmaier <=
Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, Charles Kerr, 2002/05/18
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, Adam Huffman, 2002/05/18
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, Thomas Gamble, 2002/05/19
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, Charles Kerr, 2002/05/19
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, Thomas Gamble, 2002/05/19
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, Charles Kerr, 2002/05/19
- Re: [Pan-users] 0.11.92 nit picks, Thomas Gamble, 2002/05/20