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Re: [Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies
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Travis |
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Re: [Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies |
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Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:45:39 -0800 |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Duncan" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 15:09 PM
Subject: [Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies
> Jim Henderson <address@hidden> posted
> address@hidden, excerpted below, on Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:01:34
> +0000:
>
>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:50:40 -0600, HarryB wrote:
>>
>>> New Pan (v0.132) user, running under Debian 4.0 and KDE 3.5.10.
>>>
>>> I have been able to post a new message to the newsgroup
>>> rec.bicycles.tech and one or two replies, but additional replies fail
>>> because the server rejects them and returns the following error: "441
>>> Posting Failed (Rejected by POST filter)" .
>>>
>>> I tried the same in 0.test and the results were the same: I could post
>>> at least one reply to my initial message, but subsequent replies
>>> failed.
>>>
>>> So, I booted into Windows and fired up Free Agent, my old newsreader. I
>>> was able to reply without a problem. So, it appears that the problem is
>>> with Pan and not my news server, bellsouth.net.
>>>
>>> What doesn't my news server like about Pan's replies?
>>
>> You'll probably have to ask the provider. Most NNTP servers can apply a
>> script against headers and message contents and reject based on content
>> - only the provider can tell you why your post was rejected since they
>> maintain the filter.
>
> Seconded.
>
> That's a filter on the server side, not pan, tho it's plausible the
> filter is triggering on a header pan uses that Free Agent doesn't.
>
> One header difference between pan and what I know of Agent is the way
> they create their own Message-ID. Free Agent (well, at least Forte Agent
> and I'd assume Free Agent a swell) generates a random number and adds
> @4ax.com. Pan in its current implementation starts with pan. , adds the
> date and time (numeric yyyy.mm.dd.hh.mm.ss), and finally adds the
> @domain.name portion of the from email address you used to post the
> message, so the total string format looks like this:
> address@hidden .
>
> Perhaps the posting filter is keying in on the references header and
> doesn't like something in the domain name part of the string repeated
> more than a couple times, as it would be as the thread gets longer. If
> you've munged your from address and/or there's something that looks like
> sex or p3ni5 si23 or some such in that domain name, it could be deciding
> the post is spam based on more than two occurrences of that string in any
> header.
>
> Also check any custom headers you may generate, and compare from
> addresses, etc. Who knows what it's triggering on?
>
> Besides asking them about it, there are a couple ways you can trouble
> shoot. The most obvious would be an original post from FA, then replies
> from pan, and of course the reverse (original from pan, replies from FA),
> then mixed replies (pan/FA/pan/FA..., FA/FA/pan/FA/pan/FA/pan..., etc).
> You can also use pan's draft message feature, saving the draft, opening
> it with a text editor and modifying it (say removing a a message-id or
> two from the references header, if testing the above idea), saving it,
> then opening that draft in pan and sending it. Finally, note that pan is
> available for MSWindows as well, and I believe I've seen reports that
> Free Agent works when run in WINE on Linux, so you can test posting from
> pan on MSWindows and FA in WINE on Linux as well. Not that such should
> make a difference in what the server side sees and therefore can filter,
> but it's a possibility for troubleshooting, none-the-less.
....also try posting to alt.test and not your providers private (0.XXX) group.
--
Travis in Shoreline Washington
- [Pan-users] Problems with some replies, HarryB, 2008/12/11
- [Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, Jim Henderson, 2008/12/11
- [Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, HarryB, 2008/12/11
- Re: [Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, Travis, 2008/12/11
- [Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, Duncan, 2008/12/11
- [Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, Jim Henderson, 2008/12/12
- [Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, HarryB, 2008/12/12
- [Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, Jim Henderson, 2008/12/12
- [Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, HarryB, 2008/12/12
[Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, Duncan, 2008/12/11
[Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, HarryB, 2008/12/11
[Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, Duncan, 2008/12/12
[Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, Jim Henderson, 2008/12/12
Re: [Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, Joe Zeff, 2008/12/12
[Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, Jim Henderson, 2008/12/12
[Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, Duncan, 2008/12/12
[Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, Jim Henderson, 2008/12/15
[Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies, Duncan, 2008/12/15