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[Pan-users] Re: Aaarrrgghhh! Whahoppena Terminal??
From: |
Beartooth |
Subject: |
[Pan-users] Re: Aaarrrgghhh! Whahoppena Terminal?? |
Date: |
Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:00:40 +0000 (UTC) |
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Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) |
On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:29:41 -0500, Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
> Beartooth wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:59:55 -0500, Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
>>
>>> run ps auxw grep pine and ps auxw | grep perl
>> address@hidden ~]$ ps auxw|grep pine
>> btth 11116 0.0 0.2 15600 6640 pts/5 S+ 15:22 0:01 alpine
>> btth 12020 0.0 0.0 4212 704 pts/1 S+ 16:10 0:00 grep
>> pine address@hidden ~]$
>
> If alpine is like pine it looks for a lock on your mail spool. Does the
> same thing happen if you close alpine before invoking the perl script?
address@hidden ~]$ alpine_helper.pl mailto:address@hidden &
[1] 12573
address@hidden ~]$ ls -l /home/btth/bin
total 4
-rwxr-xr-x 1 btth btth 143 2009-03-06 13:26 alpine_helper.pl
[1]+ Done alpine_helper.pl mailto:address@hidden
address@hidden ~]$
That first one did in fact launch Alpine in a Terminal. As for
locks -- I do remember that Pine used to do that. I don't think I've seen
Alpine do it. If I KVM to another machine, with Alpine running on this
one, I can still invoke it on the other.
Also, my access provider gives me a webmail address, which I use
for looking at pix and for blacklisting spam -- and otherwise at little
as possible. But I've noticed that, if one of the two (alpine or webmail)
is already open, I can still open the other. So I suspect that the change
from Pine was deliberate.
>
>> and
>> address@hidden ~]$ ps auxw|grep perl
>> btth 12039 0.0 0.0 4212 704 pts/1 S+ 16:12 0:00 grep
>> perl address@hidden ~]$
>
> This is OK
[...]
>> I hope you see more than I do above (which is quite possible) --
>> or have more ideas ....
>
> Not yet ;-) You should be able to run as many instances of terminal or
> perl as you wish so that narrows it down to alpine and a lock file. Have
> you straced the script?
I don't think I've ever used strace -- or learned any more than
how to spell it, alas!
> Why don't you use pan's mailer?
I'm one of these deep-dyed fanatics who starts from the position
that any computer not able to run Pine/Alpine is a disgrace to sit down
at, and has to have it installed ASAP, or be repaired with a
sledgehammer. After twelve or fifteen years of it, my fingers know the
commands; so I can keep my conscious thought on what I'm reading or
saying.
So I haven't the faintest notion what mailer Pan would invoke if
I didn't tell it -- but I'll bet a dollar to doughnuts that I'd detest
it, even if it weren't webmail, and more if it were.
> Do you boot to level 5 (X) or level 3 and startx? I'm curious if an
> error might be showing in the tty you startx from.
I boot straight into level 5; even my login is there.
--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
- [Pan-users] Aaarrrgghhh! Whahoppena Terminal??, Beartooth, 2009/03/06
- Re: [Pan-users] Aaarrrgghhh! Whahoppena Terminal??, Gerald L, 2009/03/06
- [Pan-users] Re: Aaarrrgghhh! Whahoppena Terminal??, Beartooth, 2009/03/06
- [Pan-users] Re: Aaarrrgghhh! Whahoppena Terminal??, Duncan, 2009/03/06
- Re: [Pan-users] Re: Aaarrrgghhh! Whahoppena Terminal??, Gerald L, 2009/03/06
- [Pan-users] Permissions Re: Aaarrrgghhh! Whahoppena Terminal??, Beartooth, 2009/03/07
- Re: [Pan-users] Permissions Re: Aaarrrgghhh! Whahoppena Terminal??, Rinaldi J. Montessi, 2009/03/07
- [Pan-users] Re: Permissions Re: Aaarrrgghhh! Whahoppena Terminal??, Beartooth, 2009/03/07
- [Pan-users] Re: Permissions Re: Aaarrrgghhh! Whahoppena Terminal??, Duncan, 2009/03/07
- [Pan-users] Re: Permissions Re: Aaarrrgghhh! Whahoppena Terminal??, Beartooth, 2009/03/08
- [Pan-users] Re: Permissions Re: Aaarrrgghhh! Whahoppena Terminal??, David Shochat, 2009/03/08