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Re: [Pan-users] Pan group list not accessible?
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Duncan |
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Re: [Pan-users] Pan group list not accessible? |
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Mon, 4 Sep 2017 21:18:00 +0000 (UTC) |
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Pan/0.143 (Quaint little villages here and there; caf13eb07) |
Izak van Langevelde posted on Mon, 04 Sep 2017 12:06:34 +0200 as
excerpted:
> I upgraded to pan 0.142, only to find it is useless because of an old
> bug (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669403).
> Is there any workaround available, or do I better switch to another
> usenet reader?
The workaround as listed in the bug is to build pan against gtk2, since
the bug only triggers when pan is built against gtk3.
This would be one of the reasons the general recommendation has been to
build pan against gtk2, not gtk3. There was a recent pan-list discussion
about whether the bugs behind that recommendation have been fixed.
Apparently at least this one remains.
Meanwhile, there should be at least three other workarounds for the
likely majority of pan users who get a binary pan package, if the binary-
package-maintainer has chosen to build against gtk3 instead of gtk2 and
the user doesn't want to go to the trouble of installing all the deps and
doing a manual build from sources against gtk2 themselves.
Pan has two display modes, paned and tabbed layout, and these three
workarounds exploit pan's layout and hotkey flexibility in different ways.
1) Switch to tabbed layout, either permanently, or temporarily, in
ordered to access the group list, then back to paned mode if desired once
the intended group has been selected.
While this can be accomplished manually using the option in the menu
under view > layout > tabbed layout (checked or unchecked), and once in
tabbed view the tabs can be switched by clicking, once familiar with
things, the user will very likely wish to use hotkeys to toggle tabbed
mode and/or switch between tabs. These hotkeys are listed beside the
menu options they trigger, and are configurable if the defaults don't
work well for you. But since I've long since customized my own hotkeys I
can't list the defaults.
2) It's worth noting that pan has group navigation apart from the usual
group list. While this workaround won't help with groups you aren't
subscribed to yet so you'll need to use one of the other workarounds for
that, once you've setup your subscribed groups, you can use the next
group and/or next unread group options to navigate your subscribed group
list, without direct use of the group list tab/pane.
The menu functions are under the go menu, next group, or next unread
group, and again, hotkeys should be available and configurable.
3) For those like me, and apparently you, who prefer the paned layout,
there's a third alternative as well. =:^) In paned layout, each of the
panes, group, header, and body, can be independently shown/hidden.
While I have a pretty large desktop here (actually two big-screen TVs as
monitors, a 48-inch/1.22m full-HD 1920x1080, and a 65-inch/1.65m 4K
3840x2160) and don't tend to need more display room in text groups, on
image groups if maximizing the pan window on the 4K doesn't give me
enough display room with all three panes shown, I'll temporarily toggle
off the immediately unnecessary panes and only show the body pane in
ordered to better view the images.
You could do similar, temporarily toggling off all but the group pane if
necessary to select a group, then toggling back on the header and body
panes.
The pane toggling menu options are again under view > layout > view group/
header/body pane, and again, hotkeys should be available and configurable
as necessary.
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