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Re: [Pan-users] user interface problem


From: David Melik
Subject: Re: [Pan-users] user interface problem
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 04:03:42 +0000 (UTC)
User-agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2)

On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 19:35:47 +0000, Duncan wrote:

> Dave posted on Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:13:12 +0000 as excerpted:
> 
>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:04:30 +0000, David Melik wrote:
>> 
>>> When you select something with the mouse and a menu comes up, you're
>>> supposed to have different keys do different things.  It's wrong
>>> design that in the menu for a newsgroup, 'h' is three options, which
>>> makes 'h'
>>> not do one of the options, just cycle through the list.  The other two
>>> need different keystrokes.  Come on, don't force people to use the
>>> mouse so much!
>> 
>> I see your point.  I'd not noticed that the same hothey had more than
>> one function on that menu.  On the other hand, to get that menu I
>> already have the mouse in my ha nd so a slight twitch of the wrist and
>> a left click is far quicker than reaching for the keyboard :-)
>> 
>> On the other hand, if you want to use the keyboard for that, try "a" to
>> get headers in current group or "A" (shift-A) to get headers in all
>> subscribed groups, no mouse or menu required.
> 
> That's probably why the three "h" menu accelerator keys in that menu has
> been overlooked for so long -- people using the mouse for everything
> ignore the menu accelerators, and people that favor the keyboard already
> have hotkeys for the functionality, so never encountered the duplicated
> accelerators.
> 
> 
> BTW, note that pan's hotkeys (as opposed to menu accelerator keys) are
> fully configurable.  If you don't like the existing hotkey setup, edit
> the ones that don't work well for you to something else, or simply
> design an entire hotkey scheme that works better for you.
> 
> I did the latter here, making things a bit more consistent, tho I kept a
> few hotkeys (like f/followup) that I had already ingrained, and actually
> reconfigured other apps (kmail back when I used it, now claws-mail) to
> use f/followup for the primary reply hotkey as well.
> 
> 
> But hotkey reconfiguration can be a rather large topic in itself and I
> don't know that you (OP) are that interested in the details yet, so I'll
> skip describing it in detail here.  If you are interested and run into
> problems, start a new thread on that, and we can go from there.

Thanks; maybe I'll try that later.  ENTER should be enough for now.





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