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Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup
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Anthony Liguori |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup |
Date: |
Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:50:06 -0500 |
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Avi Kivity <address@hidden> writes:
> On 09/13/2012 05:42 PM, Eric Blake wrote:
>> On 09/13/2012 08:34 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> On 09/13/2012 05:22 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's much easier for us to call into qemu-ga to do the time correction
>>>>> whenever this event occurs than to try and have libvirt figure out when
>>>>> it's necessary.
>>>
>>>> And if guest does not have qemu-ga what is better inject interrupts like
>>>> crazy for next 2 minutes or leave guest with incorrect time?
>>>
>>> We can try to S3 and resume the guest. The guest will assume that it
>>> has slept for an unknown amount of time and resync from the RTC.
>>
>> Just restating to make sure I'm clear: you are proposing that after host
>> suspend and host wakeup, _then_ qemu asks the guest to go into S3
>> followed by an immediate resume. During the time that the guest goes
>> into S3, its clock is way off; but then the immediate resume will be the
>> necessary kick to the guest to resync, and at that point, the guest can
>> assume that it has been off since the host originally suspended (rather
>> than the instant window where qemu actually bounced S3 after the host
>> had already resumed).
>
> Correct. In theory we can shut down networking while this is happening
> so the guest can't tell it's in a time machine.
>
>>
>>> This may not work for really old server oriented guests.
>>
>> S3 requires guest cooperation, period. But so does qemu-ga. It's
>> better than nothing, and we can't get perfection without guest cooperation.
>
> qemu-ga requires either an admin/tool to install qemu-ga, or for qemu-ga
> to be preinstalled by the OS vendor. S3 requires S3 support to be
> provided by the host vendor, and for it to be functional. A
> significantly easier bar to clear.
We can easily generate an ISO that includes a pre-built version of
qemu-ga.
Plus, there's a whole variety of other features enabled once we can
assume qemu-ga is available. It's worth solving that problem.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
>
> --
> error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, (continued)
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Gleb Natapov, 2012/09/12
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Anthony Liguori, 2012/09/12
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Gleb Natapov, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Eric Blake, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Daniel P. Berrange, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Anthony Liguori, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Gleb Natapov, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Avi Kivity, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Eric Blake, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Avi Kivity, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup,
Anthony Liguori <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Avi Kivity, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Anthony Liguori, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Avi Kivity, 2012/09/16
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Anthony Liguori, 2012/09/16
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Avi Kivity, 2012/09/19
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Gleb Natapov, 2012/09/19
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Avi Kivity, 2012/09/19
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Gleb Natapov, 2012/09/19
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Avi Kivity, 2012/09/19
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Anthony Liguori, 2012/09/13