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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-
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Jeff Cody |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-names |
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Tue, 24 Jun 2014 09:32:59 -0400 |
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Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) |
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 10:48:52AM +0800, Fam Zheng wrote:
> On Mon, 06/23 21:08, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:26:00PM -0400, Jeff Cody wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 05:17:16PM +0800, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 05:53:48PM -0400, Jeff Cody wrote:
> > > > Let's discuss this topic in a sub-thread and figure out what to do for
> > > > QEMU 2.1. This is an important issue to solve before the release
> > > > because we can't change QMP command semantics easily later.
> > > >
> > > > My questions are:
> > > > a. How do we fix resize, snapshot-sync, etc? It seems like we need to
> > > > propagate child op blockers.
> > > >
> > > > b. Is it a good idea to perform op blocker checks on the root node?
> > > > It's inconsistent with resize, snapshot-sync, etc. Permissions in
> > > > BDS graphs with multiple root nodes (e.g. guest device and NBD
> > > > run-time server) will be different depending on which root you
> > > > specify.
> > >
> > > I don't think (b) is the ultimate solution. It is used as a stop-gap
> > > because op blockers in the current implementation is essentially
> > > analogous to the in-use flag. But is it good enough for 2.1? If
> > > *everything* checks the topmost node in 2.1, then I think we are OK in
> > > all cases except where images files share a common BDS.
> >
> > Checking op blockers on the root node as a stop-gap is a good idea.
> > Let's apply it across all commands (e.g. snapshot-sync, resize).
> >
> > Fam pointed out that this approach is vulnerable to blockdev-add, where
> > blockers could be set/checked on an incomplete BDS graph (since you can
> > add new nodes on top). Do we need to move the blockers up the graph if
> > a new root node is inserted?
>
> My concern is if we allow adding new root on top, it's not easy to know the
> real root then.
>
> To give an example:
>
> If we have
>
> [base id=""] <- [active id="drive0" blockers=...]
>
> When user does
>
> (QMP) block-commit device="drive0" ...
>
> We should check drive0, which is OK.
>
> Then, assume user adds a new root on top, we would take care of moving the
> blockers:
>
> [base id=""] <- [active id="drive0"] <- [active id="drive1" blockers=]
>
> At this point, what if user does something on drive0 again?
>
> (QMP) block-commit device="drive0" ...
>
> The right thing to do is to check blockers on "drive1", since it's the real
> root now. But how do we know? Do we need to add a back reference pointer
> ->overlap_hd in BDS, or do we maintain a look up table, or do we search all
> BDS
> graphs to figure out?
>
> None is easier than if we put the blockers in the bottom BDS, in the first
> place:
>
> [base id="" blockers=...] <- [active id="drive0"]
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
I think you are right. If we place the blocker at the bottom-most
BDS, then that would be a more restrictive blocker. This may end up
being more restrictive than needed, but more importantly it should
make everything safe.
Also, it is an easy change for 2.1 - just call bdrv_find_base(bs), and
set/check/clear blockers on the returned BDS.
> Even if user adds a new root, we don't need to worry about moving blockers,
> because the bottom is not changed.
>
> [base id="" blockers=...] <- [active id="drive0"] <- [active id="drive1"]
>
> Checking the blockers are easy, either for drive0 or drive1: just follow the
> backing chain until getting to the end.
>
> Fam
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 10/10] block: add QAPI command to allow live backing file change, (continued)
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-names, Stefan Hajnoczi, 2014/06/19
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-names, Jeff Cody, 2014/06/19
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-names, Stefan Hajnoczi, 2014/06/23
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-names, Benoît Canet, 2014/06/23
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-names, Fam Zheng, 2014/06/23
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-names,
Jeff Cody <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-names, Kevin Wolf, 2014/06/24
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-names, Benoît Canet, 2014/06/24
Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-names, Benoît Canet, 2014/06/19
Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-names, Jeff Cody, 2014/06/24