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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for 4.1 v3] target/riscv: Expose time CSRs when


From: Jonathan Behrens
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for 4.1 v3] target/riscv: Expose time CSRs when allowed by [m|s]counteren
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 16:14:45 -0400

 > Taking a patch that matches the out-of-spec FU540 behavior doesn't make
any
> sense, I don't want to implement errata in QEMU :)

QEMU actually currently matches the out of spec behavior of the FU540, I
just sent out a patch to fix this.

Jonathan

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 2:26 PM Alistair Francis <address@hidden>
wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:12 PM Palmer Dabbelt <address@hidden> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 12:56:57 PDT (-0700), address@hidden wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 1:25 AM Palmer Dabbelt <address@hidden>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 23:58:34 PDT (-0700), address@hidden wrote:
> > >> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 4:23 AM Jonathan Behrens <
> address@hidden> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I just did some testing on a HiFive Unleashed board and can
> confirm what
> > >> >> you are saying. The low 5 bits of both mcounteren and scounteren
> are
> > >> >> writable (if you try to write 0xFFFFFFFF to them, they'll take on
> the value
> > >> >> 0x1F) but even with the TM bit set in both mcounteren and
> scounteren the
> > >> >> rdtime instruction always generates an illegal instruction
> exception.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > Then I would think the FU540 is not spec complaint :)
> > >>
> > >> Ya, it's an errata.  There's a handful of them :)
> > >>
> > >> >> Reading through the relevant chapter of the spec, I still think
> that having
> > >> >> mcounteren.TM be writable but making rdtime unconditionally trap is
> > >> >> non-conformant. If other people feel strongly that rdtime should
> always
> > >> >
> > >> > Agree. To test hardware (FU540) compatibility in QEMU, maybe we can
> > >> > add a cpu property to allow hard-wiring mcounteren.TM to zero?
> > >>
> > >> In theory we should have properties to control the behavior of all
> WARL fields,
> > >> but it's a lot of work.  I'd be happy to take a patch for any of them.
> > >
> > > Hmmm... We should avoid taking patches that don't adhere to the spec
> > > just to match some hardware. In the case that core/popular software
> > > doesn't work it probably makes sense, but in general it's probably not
> > > the best move.
> >
> > WARL is Write Any Read Legal.  Essentially it means that the hardware
> gets to
> > decide what sort of behavior that field has, and is the mechanism for
> optional
> > features in the ISA.  In this case it'd be entirely within spec,
> specifically:
> >
> >     Registers mcounteren and scounteren are WARL registers that must be
> >     implemented if U-mode and S-mode are implemented. Any of the bits may
> >     contain a hardwired value of zero, indicating reads to the
> corresponding
> >     counter will cause an illegal instruction exception when executing
> in a
> >     less-privileged mode.
> >
> > Taking a patch that matches the out-of-spec FU540 behavior doesn't make
> any
> > sense, I don't want to implement errata in QEMU :)
>
> Ah, I misread your email. That is fine then :)
>
> Alistair
>
> >
> > >
> > > Alistair
> > >
> > >>
> > >> >> require trapping into firmware then the natural change would be to
> simply
> > >> >> hardwire mcounteren.TM to zero (the value in scounteren wouldn't
> matter in
> > >> >> that case so it could be left writable). My own (biased) personal
> feeling
> > >> >> is that this full implementation makes sense at least for the
> `virt`
> > >> >> machine type because it represents a clear case where deviating
> from
> > >> >> current hardware enables a performance boost, and would not break
> > >> >> compatibility with any current software: both OpenSBI and BBL try
> to enable
> > >> >> hardware handling of rdtime when the platform claims to support it.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards,
> > >> > Bin
> > >>
>


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