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Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] establish nesting rule of BQL vs cpu-ex


From: Roman Kagan
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] establish nesting rule of BQL vs cpu-exclusive
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 12:47:46 +0000
User-agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15)

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:49:07PM +0000, Roman Kagan wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 01:22:33PM +0000, Roman Kagan wrote:
> > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:05:38AM +0000, Roman Kagan wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 12:31:16PM +0100, Alex Bennée wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Roman Kagan <address@hidden> writes:
> > > > 
> > > > > I came across the following AB-BA deadlock:
> > > > >
> > > > >     vCPU thread                             main thread
> > > > >     -----------                             -----------
> > > > > async_safe_run_on_cpu(self,
> > > > >                       async_synic_update)
> > > > > ...                                         [cpu hot-add]
> > > > > process_queued_cpu_work()
> > > > >   qemu_mutex_unlock_iothread()
> > > > >                                             [grab BQL]
> > > > >   start_exclusive()                         cpu_list_add()
> > > > >   async_synic_update()                        finish_safe_work()
> > > > >     qemu_mutex_lock_iothread()                  cpu_exec_start()
> > > > >
> > > > > ATM async_synic_update seems to be the only async safe work item that
> > > > > grabs BQL.  However it isn't quite obvious that it shouldn't; in the
> > > > > past there were more examples of this (e.g.
> > > > > memory_region_do_invalidate_mmio_ptr).
> > > > >
> > > > > It looks like the problem is generally in the lack of the nesting rule
> > > > > for cpu-exclusive sections against BQL, so I thought I would try to
> > > > > address that.  This patchset is my feeble attempt at this; I'm not 
> > > > > sure
> > > > > I fully comprehend all the consequences (rather, I'm sure I don't) 
> > > > > hence
> > > > > RFC.
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm I think this is an area touched by:
> > > > 
> > > >   Subject: [PATCH v7 00/73] per-CPU locks
> > > >   Date: Mon,  4 Mar 2019 13:17:00 -0500
> > > >   Message-Id: <address@hidden>
> > > > 
> > > > which has stalled on it's path into the tree. Last time I checked it
> > > > explicitly handled the concept of work that needed the BQL and work that
> > > > didn't.
> > > 
> > > I'm still trying to get my head around that patchset, but it looks like
> > > it changes nothing in regards to cpu-exclusive sections and safe work,
> > > so it doesn't make the problem go.
> > > 
> > > > How do you trigger your deadlock? Just hot-pluging CPUs?
> > > 
> > > Yes.  The window is pretty narrow so I only saw it once although this
> > > test (where the vms are started and stopped and the cpus are plugged in
> > > and out) is in our test loop for quite a bit (probably 2+ years).
> > > 
> > > Roman.
> > 
> > ping?
> 
> ping?

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