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Re: [PATCH] PoC: Rust binding for QAPI (qemu-ga only, for now)


From: Marc-André Lureau
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PoC: Rust binding for QAPI (qemu-ga only, for now)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 13:15:12 +0400

Hi

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 10:23 PM Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
On 29/09/20 19:55, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
> My understanding of what you propose is:
> - ForeignConvert::with_foreign
> - FromForeign::from_foreign (with implied into_native)
> And:
> - ForeignConvert::as_foreign (with the BorrowedPointer/stash-like)
> - ToForeign::to_foreign + ForeignConvert::as_foreign_mut (which seems
> wrongly designed in your proposal and unnecessary for now)

Might well be, but how is it wrong?  (I'd like to improve).

Why BorrowedMutPointer provides both *const P and *mut P ? The *const P conversion seems overlapping with BorrowedPointer.

Anyway, the &mut T -> *mut P conversion seems fairly rare to me and error-prone. You usually give up ownership if you let the foreign function tweak the P.

In any case, we don't need such conversion for QAPI, for now.


> I don't have your head, so I find it hard to remember & work with. It> uses all possible prefixes: with_, from_, as_, as_mut, to_, and into_.
> That just blows my mind, sorry :)

Ahah I don't have your head either!  The idea anyway is to reuse
prefixes that are common in Rust code:

* with_: a constructor that uses something to build a type (think
Vec::with_capacity) and therefore takes ownership


ForeignConvert::with_foreign (const *P -> T) doesn't take ownership.

The Rust reference for this kind of conversion is CStr::from_ptr.


* as_: a cheap conversion to something, it's cheap because it reuses the
lifetime (and therefore takes no ownership).  Think Option::as_ref.

as_ shouldn't create any object, and is thus unsuitable for a general rs<->sys conversion function (any).

* from_/to_: a copying and possibly expensive conversion (that you have
to write the code for).  Because it's copying, it doesn't consume the
argument (for from_) or self (for to_).


and that's what glib-rs uses (and CStr).

 
* into_: a conversion that consumes the receiver


That's not used by glib afaik, but we should be able to introduce it for "mut *P -> T", it's not incompatible with FromPtrFull::from_full.

In general, I like the fact that the conversion traits are associated to T, and not to P (which can remain a bare pointer, without much associated methods).

It may well be over the top.

> Then, I don't understand why ForeignConvert should hold both the "const
> *P -> T" and "&T -> const *P" conversions. Except the common types,
> what's the relation between the two?

Maybe I'm wrong, but why would you need just one?

No I mean they could be on different traits. One could be implemented without the other. Or else I don't understand why the other conversion functions would not be in that trait too.


> Finally, I thought you introduced some differences with the stash
> design, but in fact I can see that ForeignConvert::Storage works just
> the way as ToPtr::Storage. So composition should be similar. Only your
> example code is more repetitive as it doesn't indirectly refer to the
> trait Storage the same way as glib-rs does (via <T as ToPtr>::Storage).

Yes, that's the main difference.  I removed Storage because I didn't
want to force any trait on BorrowedPointer's second type argument.  It
seemed like a generic concept to me.

To the cost of some duplication. I like the coupling between the traits better. If you need a similar tuple/struct elsewhere, it's easy to make your own.

The Storage type can quickly become quite complicated with QAPI, I would rather avoid having to repeat it, it would create hideous compiler errors too.


The other difference is that Stash is a tuple while BorrowedPointer is a
struct and has methods to access it.  Stash seems very ugly to use.

Yes I agree. Not sure why they made it a bare tuple, laziness perhaps :).


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Marc-André Lureau

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