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Re: [ANNOUNCE] KVM Microconference at LPC 2023


From: Mickaël Salaün
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] KVM Microconference at LPC 2023
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2023 23:52:18 +0200
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Hi,

What is the status of this microconference proposal? We'd be happy to talk about Heki [1] and potentially other hypervisor supports.

Regards,
 Mickaël


[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230505152046.6575-1-mic@digikod.net/


On 26/05/2023 18:09, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
See James Morris's proposal here:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/17f62cb1-a5de-2020-2041-359b8e96b8c0@linux.microsoft.com/

On 26/05/2023 04:36, James Morris wrote:
  > [Side topic]
  >
  > Would folks be interested in a Linux Plumbers Conference MC on this
  > topic generally, across different hypervisors, VMMs, and architectures?
  >
  > If so, please let me know who the key folk would be and we can try
writing
  > up an MC proposal.

The fine-grain memory management proposal from James Gowans looks
interesting, especially the "side-car" virtual machines:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/88db2d9cb42e471692ff1feb0b9ca855906a9d95.camel@amazon.com/


On 09/05/2023 11:55, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
Hi all!

We are planning on submitting a CFP to host a KVM Microconference at
Linux Plumbers Conference 2023. To help justify the proposal, we would
like to gather a list of folks that would likely attend, and crowdsource
a list of topics to include in the proposal.

For both this year and future years, the intent is that a KVM
Microconference will complement KVM Forum, *NOT* supplant it. As you
probably noticed, KVM Forum is going through a somewhat radical change in
how it's organized; the conference is now free and (with some help from
Red Hat) organized directly by the KVM and QEMU communities. Despite the
unexpected changes and some teething pains, community response to KVM
Forum continues to be overwhelmingly positive! KVM Forum will remain
the venue of choice for KVM/userspace collaboration, for educational
content covering both KVM and userspace, and to discuss new features in
QEMU and other userspace projects.

At least on the x86 side, however, the success of KVM Forum led us
virtualization folks to operate in relative isolation. KVM depends on
and impacts multiple subsystems (MM, scheduler, perf) in profound ways,
and recently we’ve seen more and more ideas/features that require
non-trivial changes outside KVM and buy-in from stakeholders that
(typically) do not attend KVM Forum. Linux Plumbers Conference is a
natural place to establish such collaboration within the kernel.

Therefore, the aim of the KVM Microconference will be:
* to provide a setting in which to discuss KVM and kernel internals
* to increase collaboration and reduce friction with other subsystems
* to discuss system virtualization issues that require coordination with
other subsystems (such as VFIO, or guest support in arch/)

Below is a rough draft of the planned CFP submission.

Thanks!

Paolo Bonzini (KVM Maintainer)
Sean Christopherson (KVM x86 Co-Maintainer)
Marc Zyngier (KVM ARM Co-Maintainer)


===================
KVM Microconference
===================

KVM (Kernel-based Virtual Machine) enables the use of hardware features
to improve the efficiency, performance, and security of virtual machines
created and managed by userspace.  KVM was originally developed to host
and accelerate "full" virtual machines running a traditional kernel and
operating system, but has long since expanded to cover a wide array of use
cases, e.g. hosting real time workloads, sandboxing untrusted workloads,
deprivileging third party code, reducing the trusted computed base of
security sensitive workloads, etc.  As KVM's use cases have grown, so too
have the requirements placed on KVM and the interactions between it and
other kernel subsystems.

The KVM Microconference will focus on how to evolve KVM and adjacent
subsystems in order to satisfy new and upcoming requirements: serving
guest memory that cannot be accessed by host userspace[1], providing
accurate, feature-rich PMU/perf virtualization in cloud VMs[2], etc.


Potential Topics:
     - Serving inaccessible/unmappable memory for KVM guests (protected VMs)
     - Optimizing mmu_notifiers, e.g. reducing TLB flushes and spurious zapping
     - Supporting multiple KVM modules (for non-disruptive upgrades)
     - Improving and hardening KVM+perf interactions
     - Implementing arch-agnostic abstractions in KVM (e.g. MMU)
     - Defining KVM requirements for hardware vendors
     - Utilizing "fault" injection to increase test coverage of edge cases
     - KVM vs VFIO (e.g. memory types, a rather hot topic on the ARM side)


Key Attendees:
     - Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> (KVM Maintainer)
     - Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>  (KVM x86 Co-Maintainer)
     - Your name could be here!

[1] 
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221202061347.1070246-1-chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com
[2] 
https://lore.kernel.org/all/CALMp9eRBOmwz=mspp0m5Q093K3rMUeAsF3vEL39MGV5Br9wEQQ@mail.gmail.com





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