Re: [Ranger-users] A new approach to build the user interface of the future!

[hut]

Absolutely!  Upcoming feature: Support for foot pedals which have to be
pressed before any destructive operations so that you don't accidently
delete anything.

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 07:58:54PM -0300, Andres MRM wrote:
> 
> I see that like a great change!
> I always mistype using Vim key bindings, doing bad things with my files.
> You could add ALL modifiers before any command to avoid that. Like:
> - Ctrl+Alt+Meta+Shift+AltGr+up to go up.
> - Ctrl+Alt+Meta+Shift+AltGr+down to go down.
> That will probably help a lot! =D
> 
> Maybe we will lack fingers... but that can be an opportunity to interact more
> with people. Like "Hey, could you please help me by pressing
> LShift+LCtrl+LMeta so I can press RShift+RCtrl+RMeta+RAlt+Delete to delete a
> file?". I see great friendships, and, why not, love stories starting that way!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting feel.squally (2015-03-31 19:15:56)
> > With vim key bindings for scrolling down along the files in a directory you
> > just need one finger typing j.
> > 
> > I guess with emacs you need C+n that implies TWO fingers.
> > 
> > Also, if this change is about a concern of freedom, is there the FREEDOM to
> > choose between vim and emacs key bindings like tmux does?
> > If so, I am happy with this change otherwise I think ranger will lose users
> > pretty soon.
> > 
> > Il 31/mar/2015 22:52 "Miodrag Milic" <address@hidden> ha scritto:
> > 
> >     > Imagine a text editor where you can just type in some keys, and they
> >     appear on
> >     the screen.  Just like that. 
> >    
> >     OMG, I didn't even know such thing exists!!!! PLEASE!!! 
> > 
> >     On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Gerald Klein <address@hidden> wrote:
> > 
> >         Can someone please tell if this is a joke, I'm serious I can't tell?
> > 
> >         On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 3:20 PM, hut <address@hidden> wrote:
> > 
> >             So, ranger has been around for almost 6 years, and after all 
> > this
> >             time of
> >             optimizing and re-evaluating, I think we need a paradigm shift 
> > in
> >             the way
> >             ranger works.
> > 
> >             There are going to be a few changes starting with the upcoming
> >             1.7.0 release
> >             which can be tested now already by running the current git 
> > version:
> > 
> >               git clone https://github.com/hut/ranger.git -b current
> >               cd ranger
> >               ./ranger.py
> > 
> >             I sincerely believe now that trying to copy the vim user 
> > experience
> >             was wrong
> >             on many levels, because clearly emacs is the better editor.  
> > It's
> >             build on the
> >             idea of freedom, of elegance and of having to press modifier 
> > keys
> >             all the time.
> > 
> >             If that doesn't convince you yet, how about this:
> > 
> >             Imagine a text editor where you can just type in some keys, and
> >             they appear on
> >             the screen.  Just like that.  No silly modes, no crazy things
> >             happening by
> >             typing random characters on the keyboard (think ggdGZZ, it 
> > deletes
> >             your whole
> >             text, then saves the file and quits the editor!  How crazy is
> >             that?!)
> > 
> >             No.  Using Emacs key bindings is the only sane way to do it.  
> > Check
> >             out the
> >             new key bindings on the man page: http://ranger.nongnu.org/
> >             ranger.1.html
> > 
> >             Of course ranger has no concept of "typing in text" like emacs
> >             does, so typing
> >             in keys without modifiers will do nothing at all.  Basically you
> >             will have to
> >             use modifier keys for everything you do.  But still it's 
> > obviously
> >             better than
> >             vim-like key bindings.  ***BONUS*** The first 100 to upgrade 
> > will
> >             get a free
> >             treatment for their future carpal tunnel syndrome!
> > 
> >             Regards,
> >             hut
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         --
> >        
> >         Gerald Klein DBA
> > 
> >         address@hidden
> > 
> >         www.geraldklein.com
> > 
> >         geraldklein.wordpress.com
> > 
> >         address@hidden
> > 
> >         708-599-0352
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > 
> >    
> > 
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