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Re: [Taler] Status [Was: Re: scritcash?]


From: Christian Grothoff
Subject: Re: [Taler] Status [Was: Re: scritcash?]
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 15:35:56 +0100
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Sadly, not too much is public:

https://www.riksbank.se/en-gb/press-and-published/notices-and-press-releases/notices/2019/the-riksbank-is-procuring-suppliers-to-develop-proposals-for-an-e-krona/

https://www.riksbank.se/en-gb/payments--cash/e-krona/

Regardless, we obtained the full tender and they are explicitly asking
for a register-based solution (big database with accounts and amounts),
while reasonable privacy is only possible with a value-based solution
(like Taler).

Happy hacking!

Christian

On 12/10/19 8:10 AM, Georges OIKONOMIDIS wrote:
> Dear Christian,
> 
> My " off, far off" start of my mail expressed sincerely my apology for
> intruding into your discussion.
> I wanted to understand where you stand with respect to the progress of
> Taler's endeavour.
> I thank you for your answer, and I' d like to learn about Swedish
> central bank choice. If there is a link towards their decision I'd like
> to have it.
> 
> Thanks a lot
> Happy hacking!
> 
> Στις Τρί, 10 Δεκ 2019, 00:26 ο χρήστης Christian Grothoff
> <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>> έγραψε:
> 
>     Hi Georges,
> 
>     Changing the subject as you're somewhat impolitely hijacking the
>     discussion here.
> 
>     Still, to give you a brief answer: the one-sided anonymity problem was
>     in theory solved before we started, and has been implemented for years.
> 
>     Today, major open work items are:
>     * integration with an actual bank (code is in libeufin.git)
>     * regulatory approval (latest news: draft terms of service were
>       written!)
>     * wallet backup and intra-wallet synchronization (see: sync.git,
>       anastasis.git)
>     * wallet user experience (transaction history, public key
>       infrastructure editing, error handling)
>     * documentation (code, procedures)
>     * testing and external security audits
> 
>     We have also already presented Taler to a few "European institutions"
>     (like the Swedish central bank, which then decided to go for a mass-
>     surveillance solution instead). But political work (= talking to
>     government institutions) is definitively something that should
>     continue, and where we could use more help as well.
> 
>     Happy hacking!
> 
>     Christian
> 
>     On Mon, 2019-12-09 at 23:08 +0200, Georges OIKONOMIDIS wrote:
>     > Off, far off,  the very point of your discussion:
>     > When I first met Taler I understood it is about anonymous payments.
>     > Anonymous on the side of the payer NOT on the side of the payee!
>     > My question, after quite some time, is:
>     > where does your team stand  with respect to this very problem?
>     > Are you ready with the solution, or is it yet on the building?
>     > Will you be soon enough, ready to present your proposals to the
>     > European
>     > institutions?
>     > I hope to hear from you, good news.
>     >
> 
> 
> 

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