Re: running viewmail under emacs 29.3

[Mark Diekhans]

Hi Göran,

I will take care of adding all the branches to gitlab next week.

I will also will add my as branches as well.  We can then think
of merging them into main.  A couple of mine are easy and safe.

The macro changes for the native compilation might not be the
best approach. We might want to consult an expert. I also know I
have missed some cases.

There are problems other fixes, we should identify them.  I
suspect some are buried in tickets

Cheers,
Mark

Göran Uddeborg <goeran@uddeborg.se> writes:
> Hi Mark,
> 
> I sent my mail a couple of hours ago, so you are not that much behind!
> :-)
> 
> I've made you a maintainer in Gitlab.
> 
> You seem more apt at migrating than I am, so I'll leave that part to
> you. Take your time!
> 
> Thank YOU!
> 
> 
> Mark Diekhans skrev:
> > 
> > Hi Göran,
> > 
> > Sorry, I am behind on email and didn't notice this.  moving
> > gitlab is great.  I am comfortable with either.
> > 
> > I just sent a request access message.
> > 
> > THANK YOU!!
> > 
> > Moving the open issues over doesn't seem as straight forward.  I
> > think the way to do that might be to migrate issues from
> > launchpad to github and then github to gitlab
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Mark
> > 
> > Göran Uddeborg <goeran@uddeborg.se> writes:
> > > Hi Mark and others,
> > > 
> > > My intention also was to migrate the entire history. (Otherwise the
> > > migration would have been trivial.) Do you plan to use the gitlab.com
> > > repository I created? If so, do you have an account there so I can
> > > give you the access rights?
> > > 
> > > Mark Diekhans skrev:
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Peter,
> > > > 
> > > > My branch does not include Stefan's work and I know there are a
> > > > couple of remaining problems with emacs compile.
> > > > 
> > > > I am out of the country this week, but could work with you
> > > > starting next week.  I was going to convert the entire bzr tree
> > > > to get the history and then merge in patches.
> > > > 
> > > > Mark
> > > > 
> > > > peter.julien.rayner@gmail.com <peter.julien.rayner@gmail.com> writes:
> > > > > Just a quick note to say that the branch:
> > > > > >  
> > > > 
> > bzr+ssh://markd-kermodei@bazaar.launchpad.net/~markd-kermodei/vm/vm-emacs-28/
> > > > > configured, made and ran out of the box under 29.3. I've not checked
> > > > > the impact of Mark's other changes nor whether this includes or
> > > > > obviates Stefan's cleanups but   we have a potential base to work
> > > > > from. If noone else steps up in a week I'll open a repo for this
> > > > > version and look to integrate existing patches. A warning that if I do
> > > > > this it will be github; that might stimulate others to offer to manage
> > > > > on their preferred host.
> > > > > Thanks again all for a wonderful tool.
> > > > > regards
> > > > > Peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > >However, I think whatever is left of the VM community needs to
> > > > > >figure out if we want to breath new life into VM or let it join
> > > > > >the crypt of yesterdays great software.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Personally, I love VM, but the compatibility issues, as well as
> > > > > >not scaling to modern email volume, is increasingly problematic.
> > > > > >While I would be happy to be part of a community to resurrect
> > > > > >and modernize VM, I just don't have bandwidth to be developing
> > > > > >my own email client.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >If anyone is interested, lets start a conversation.  VM is an
> > > > > >amazing pieces of software.  We might be able to attract others
> > > > > >if we can seed a modern approach to collaborative development.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Cheers
> > > > > >Mark
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Stefan Monnier via General discussion of VM mail reader 
> > > > <viewmail-info@nongnu.org> writes:
> > > > > >> > A naive attempt to clone from 
> > > > > >> > https://github.com/emacsorphanage/vm/
> > > > > >> > and run failed.  I've been running a version from the bzr repo 
> > > > > >> > under
> > > > > >> > 29.0.50.
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> [ Hmm... 29.3 or the obsolete 29.0.50?  ]
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> > A few questions:
> > > > > >> > - Am I starting from the right repo or is there a more recent 
> > version?
> > > > > >> > - Are others running successfully in the case I'm trying?
> > > > > >> > - Does any of the experienced maintainers have a sense of how 
> > > > > >> > hard 
> > this 
> > > > will
> > > > > >> >   be to fix?  I'm willing to try it but would like an estimate 
> > > > > >> > of 
> > > > difficulty
> > > > > >> >   and time.
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> Check the latest thread in this mailing-list, under the subject
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >>     vm, emacs 28.2 (debian), urls in minibuffer
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> where I sent a "cleanup" patch to help get the code closer to 
> > > > > >> modern
> > > > > >> ELisp.  John Stoffel gave up on trying to make it work, but I don't
> > > > > >> think it's should be very hard.  I don't use VM myself, but I'm 
> > > > > >> quite
> > > > > >> experienced in fixing those kinds of things and would be glad to 
> > provide
> > > > > >> guidance.  Maybe you can team with John?
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >>         Stefan
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
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