It seems easier with sipdroid than my iphone 2g (for 3g+ there is talkatone app that seems to do what sipdroid does - dial in / out from a single app). In my case I have to leave a softphone (Linphone) open in the background (this requires a jailbreak app - backgrounder), then use GV Mobile jailbreak app to dial the # I wish to call, then pop back to the backgrounded softphone to answer the incoming "outgoing" call. Also no automatic setup / configuration for pbxes for iphone app like you describe for sipdroid. I couldn't find a setup guide on the pbxes site and much of the discussions were over my head. Did I miss a newbie setup guide or iphone 2g guide? Currently using the Linphone free sip account and am curious what is different, better, advantage(s) of using a free pbxes sip account vs. the free Linphone sip account?
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Nikolai Cassanova <address@hidden> wrote:
Okay, I didn't know that you were trying to accomplish, free phone calling through sip, in that case, i think i might have a set up that includes google voice that can get you making and receiving little lag, as you said that your internet on both devices is fine, so I don't think its your internet that is causing lag, but your set up, unless your not getting 3g and is on edge network instead of 3g, that might be the reason there would be lag, but since i am always making and receiving calls over 3g through sip with the help of google voice and sipdroid. My phone is a htc magic/sapphire or mytouch 3g (android version 2.2.1 with cyanogenmod 6.1) and i am on the tmobile network. So it can't be android, as I would be having the same problems as you are having.
If your interested in my setup what i did is this:
Google Voice to IPKall (provides free DID number which is a virtual number that you will use as a forwarding phone in google voice) to (any sip provider you want but in our case we will use pbxes.org)
Okay thats my setup and don't worry everything I wrote in that order is all free, so first go to google voice and just sign in with your gmail address and password to make sure your registered in google voice. Then go to IPKall and sign up and get a number as they will provide you with a free number that is based in Washington in the United States (hope your based in the states or Canada b/c then this might not work as google might block your ip address since it only provides free phone calling to USA and I think Canada.) Take down not of the number that IPKall gives you and then go back to google voice and then put that number that you got into forwarding phone that is located in voice setting. Hopefully google voice will verify that number, if it doesn't that just mean that someone else that has google voice and is trying to do the same thing your doing used that same ipkall number, as if a user of ipkall signs up and doesn't use ipkall, ipkall kicks that user off and then takes the number and gives it another new user, but don't worry u won't have to remember this number is only the bridge between google voice and your sip provider. As ipkall job is to then forward your call from google voice to your sip address.
Okay next after you have your ipkall number verified go to sipdroid and download the latest sipdroid 2.01 i think it is, from android market, as after it is downloaded and start app, i believe there is an option to sign up for a free pbxes.org account that will set up google voice with your pbxes.org, so you can place calls or make outgoing calls through google voice from sipdroid by just dialing a number or sip address and hitting send in sipdroid. After you do that your pbxes account will automatically be setup but you should then go on laptop and sign into pbxes just to make sure it is up.
Then go to ipkall and now you have to put in your info for sip phone number and sip proxy, your phone number will be everything b/4 the @ symbol. so if your sip address is address@hidden, then in the space where you see sip phone number you should type 123hty. Then put in sip proxy and password and email address.
That should do it you are then all set to make and receive calls free through your tablet and smart phone, but to do a test call your google voice number and see if your sip client rings, i would use a sip client like ekiga off my computer as a test and it should ring.
Let me know if this helps and sorry for the essay.
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Ted Krasnicki <address@hidden> wrote:
Nikolai:
Thanks for your reply.
The number of hours I wasted trying to get things to work on this
SIP system is not worth the results. I did have some success using
Linphone, Emansip, and Ekega. I say some because the voice quality
was never phone like. It was often chopped up or delayed, pretty
well unusable. When I communicated between (Windows) desktop and
desktop it was perfect.
I tried sipdroid, and I could only receive (chopped) calls, but I
was never able to initiate calls through it. I also found that on
my tablet and smart phone the calls would terminate after 38 or 39
seconds. I did the testing near the WAP so it was not a low WIFI
signal that was the problem.
Also, I am not able to receive or make calls all the time on these
little devices, as things do not always work, and I have found no
pattern to this.
I am also unable to use Google voice on these devices, as I am told
that I am not registered for Google voice which not correct since I
do use Google voice top make calls from my desktops.
Either it is the devices (but Internet runs fine on them), or, I
suspect, perhaps Android itself that is the problem. I am using
Android 2.1 on the tablet, and 2.2 on the smart phone.
I wish there could be a mini Linux for these devices as I like
Linux, although I must use Windows on my desktops because of my
programming work.
Thanks, again,
Ted
On 2/10/2011 8:31 PM, Nikolai Cassanova wrote:
Android, does have google talk, I figure your
trying to make free phone calling through sip right? since your
using android as in the your android tablet, with linphone or
any other sip client you can make phone calls with, I use
sipdroid, check for it in the android market, also if your smart
phone is a android device as well you can try sipdroid on it as
well.
In terms of your lag it shouldn't be that bad b/c i use ekiga on
ubuntu 10.10 (linux) and for my set up I have people who call me
on plain old telephone systems and there is no lag at all.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Ted Krasnicki <address@hidden>
wrote:
Hi Simon:
Thanks for your reply and the information.
All this SIP stuff is new for me. I got an Android tablet
and a Chinese knock off of a Smart phone over Christmas. I
do not plan to use the cell phone connection with these so I
got interested in this SIP stuff. Skype for Android does
not have either speech or video at the moment, and I cannot
figure out if Google talk is available for Android.
I was finally able to access the smart phone running
linphone but using Ekiga on my desktop. The linphone for
Windows cannot connect with the Android smart phone, and I
spent a long time trying. I just installed a few minutes
ago the latest version of linphone on the desktop, but at
the moment I cannot do anything because the sip.linphone.org server seems to be
down.
When I was connected through Ekiga, though, it was very
strange. There was quite a delay from my speaking on the
smart phone to the time that I was heard on the desktop and
vice versa. The longer I was connected, the greater was the
delay. After I was connected for 2 minutes for instance,
the delay was almost 30 seconds, clearly unusable. At the
outset, the delay was only a few seconds. But the quality
of the voice was awful too. Very chopped up. Is this
normal? I use ADSL. Can you suggest ways I can get a
normal phone like connection for the voice, and I will worry
about the video at a later time?
Thanks,
Ted
On 2/7/2011 4:01 PM, Simon Morlat wrote:
Hi Ted,
First did you received the emails with the
confirmation links for the
two accounts ?
On the windows version, password is prompted when
needed. If it did not
asked for it, it means that it did not succeed to
contact the server.
Are you sure of the configuration you entered ?
Now about the contacts on Android app, we use the
Android native
addressbook, which indeed does not necessarily make
things easy for
entering sip uris.
My recommendation is to type the sip uris manually and
then retrieve
them in the History tab (once you made a call to
them).
Simon
Le mardi 01 février 2011 à 21:57 -0500, Ted Krasnicki
a écrit :
Hi:
I installed linphone for Android on my tablet, and
linphone for Windows
on my base computer. I got the free sip from sip.linphone.org,
made 2
accounts (i.e. user names) one for the tablet and
one for the base
computer, tried to call each other and nothing
happens. I notice there
is no place on the Windows linphone app to put in my
password, while
there is on the Android app. Also, on the Android
app, I cannot put in
any contacts: it says to press menu and then go to
accounts, but nothing
happens when I press menu. Cannot put any contacts
on the Windows
version either, but I haven't figured out how to go
about doing that yet.
Can anyone help?
Thanks,
Ted