Re: LessZilla/SeaMonkey: artwork and builds

[incognu]

Karl Berry wrote:
>     As a third party builder
>
> But do you want to be a "third party"?  Why not join the project?  I
> am confused ...
I'd be happy to, Karl, but I think you radically overestimate my skills.

I'm not a programmer.  I just compile some optimised builds, and do a little
minor hacking on them.  I'm just a guy who makes SM themes, and does 
some third
party SeaMonkey builds (have been making them for a year now). Software 
Freedom
is important to me, and I decided, after the issues with Firefox branding and
Debian, that I want a Free SeaMonkey, and want my own builds to be 
Free. I knew
of no project providing a Free version of SeaMonkey, the way GNUzilla provides
Iceweasel, so I decided to hack my own. To be honest, I lack the coding skills
necessary to take a very active part in such projects.  I'm learning as I go.

>     my immediate concern is with any objections
>     GNUzilla might have about my use of the name
>
> Um, which name?  LessZilla?  Our concern is not to confuse users.  Two
> different projects going by the same name would be confusing.

First, my builds are hardly a project;  I think very few people use them.  At
any rate, my future builds will not be named LessZilla.  Really,  names aren't
particularly important to me.  I used "LessZilla" largely as a tribute to the
work GNUzilla is doing, and somewhat in hopes that there would be a "real"
LessZilla available soon.

Do you have any objections to my modifying the gnuzilla gnu for use in 
throbbers
and artwork?  I originally used an early version of the SeaMonkey logo for the
throbbers in my themes.  Now that the logo is going to be under restrictive
Mozilla trademarks, I'm having to make new ones, and would like to use a gnu
head in them.

You can view some of them at 
http://www.incognu.com/lesszilla.img.html#throbbers
(temporary page)

> By the way, excuse my ignorance, but can someone explain all these
> various components from the Mozilla world?  I was under the impression
> that SeaMonkey is essentially the union of Firefox, Thunderbird, and
> Sunbird (anything else?).  Is that right?  The confusing thing about
> that to me is that starting up "firefox" and starting up "mozilla" on my
> system lead to considerably different interfaces.  E.g., firefox has a
> builtin search box next to the nav bar.  (Not that I'm complaining or
> want to change the behavior, I just want to understand. :)

They're not the same, though:  although they rely on some common underlying
code, the standalone apps were developed with a different philosophy, and, as
you've observed, are very different from SeaMonkey or the old Suite.  
The Suite
actually dates back considerably before Firefox, Thunderbird and 
Sunbird. SeaMonkey doesn't join together the standalones; rather, it 
continues a longer
tradition of an integrated app.