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Re: [Advocate Play Ogg] Tactics


From: Máté Gergely
Subject: Re: [Advocate Play Ogg] Tactics
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:48:45 +0200


From: Gervase Markham <address@hidden>

If that's true, I would suggest you would do much better, for
downloaders on Windows, to point them at the DirectShow codecs from
http://www.xiph.org/dshow/. (Leaving aside the fact that that page is a
UI disaster; you'd need your own download site.) That way, you achieve
your goal of getting them to play Ogg without making them switch media
player to something which is less featureful.

Installing the codecs automatically enables Ogg for everything which
uses the media framework - browser plugins, any media players they have,
whatever. No need to switch, change UIs, recreate playlists, etc. etc.

Hi Gerv,

the last time I tried the dshow filters on a Vista system with Windows Media Player, about in april, it had a really great usability issue:
it did not associated the ogg file type with WMP on install.
Therefore I was able to play back OGG media when directly opened from Windows Media Player, but when I simply double-clicked on an OGG icon, the usual open-with dialog popped up. Also, I WAS NOT ABLE to teach the system to open OGG with WMP. In the moment I set WMP as the default application for OGG, it has forgotten my settings. It was like with the good old Internet Explorer 6, which, on every machine I tried it, always asked on startup if it should be the default browser or not - regardless of the state of the checkbox on the same dialog about my willingness to see that dialog ever again.
If this state - that the OGG directshow filters does not register the right file types to the right app - is still persistent, it is quite pointless to suggest the directshow codecs to anyone.

Videolan's VLC has a nice homepage (http://videolan.org) with an easy download path.

On the other hand, I think, VLC has some patent issues with other supported formats (for example MPEG2). It may be plausible, that anyone, who downloads and installs it, and uses it for MPEG2 demuxing, commits a patent violation, at least in most of the developed countries. Probably some clever branching of VLC could solve that problem. In that case, it would be possible for Videolan to have a download page like getfirefox.com.

Regards,
Gergely Mate
Hungary

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