Re: mv and cp -p ought to be more respectful time wise on M$ filesystems

[Dan Jacobson]

>>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> writes:

>> From: Dan Jacobson <address@hidden> Newsgroups:
>> gnu.utils.bug Date: 05 Feb 2001 22:16:23 +0800
>> 
>> using mv or cp from my windows formatted other disk to my gnu/linux
>> disk: mv: preserving times for elec8-10-00.jpg: Operation not
>> permitted same for cp -p
>> 
>> I mean all those windows unzip utilities can set file times, what's
>> the big deal here?

Eli> It's not the filesystem problem: a port of mv works for me on DOS
Eli> and Windows without any problems.

Eli> I suggest to look for the problem in the way your Windows
Eli> partition is mounted.

Hmmm, root doesn't have the problem.
$ mount
/dev/hda1 on /mnt/win_c type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,iocharset=cp950,umask=0)
/dev/hda5 on /mnt/win_d type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,iocharset=cp950,umask=0)
It seems I could as in the mount manual, use
       uid=value and gid=value
              Set the owner and group of all files. (Default: the
              uid and gid of the current process.)
in /etc/fstab
But this apparently would only fix the problem for at most one user?
By the way, touch -r reference_file new_file #also affected, no surprise

By the way
touch: new_file: Operation not permitted
is too cryptic.

By the way, in the touch manual
  -r, --reference=FILE
              use this file's times instead of current time
should say
  -r FILE, --reference=FILE
same with the other options on the man page.  Also do on --help output.
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