Re: Trouble calculating fully live take points

[Timothy Y. Chow]

On Sun, 11 Jun 2023, Lasse Hjorth Madsen wrote:
> Thanks, Tim. I don't think the problem is simply that I fail to factor 
> gammons in, because my dead-cube take points agree with GNU, also for 
> gammonish positions. It is only when I try to *both* account for gammons 
> and a fully live cube, that I see a discrepancy.

But it could be that GNU's dead-cube take point is *not* gammon-adjusted, 
while the "live-cube" take point *is* gammon-adjusted.  There's wide 
consensus on what the dead-cube take point should mean, but there's much 
less consensus on how to define the "live-cube" take point.

Another small thing to note is that the dead-cube take point doesn't 
depend on the specific position; it depends only on the match score.  But 
in the GNU documentation, when it quotes a live-cube take point, it says 
that it's the live-cube take point *for that position*.  If the live-cube 
take point depended only on the match score, then why would they say that 
it's for that *position* as opposed to for that *match score*?  That they 
say it's for the position is (to me) some weak evidence that they're 
taking into account gammons (which of course vary from position to 
position).

Tim