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Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful
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Ludovic Courtès |
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Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful |
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Sat, 05 Aug 2017 22:30:13 +0200 |
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Joseph Myers <address@hidden> skribis:
> There are cases where explanations in the code are relevant. But those
> serve different purposes and are to be understood in different contexts.
> The comments in the code should explain the current version of the code
> and should be understood in the context of that version. They don't need
> to explain what was different in some past version of the code, or why
> that past version of the code was incorrect or inferior, unless a reader
> of the current code might think it odd on first reading and expect it to
> be the different (older, incorrect) version instead.
>
> Whereas the commit description (=~ mailing list posting proposing and
> justifying the patch for inclusion, in my view) needs to explain, relative
> to the old version of the code, why the new version is better. And
> sometimes there may be no plausible place to attach a comment, e.g. if the
> patch is removing code not adding it (but it may still need detailed
> reasoning about why the removal is desirable and safe and a detailed
> discussion of how it was done). Or if it is changing code from a
> less-natural (now) form to a more-natural form, code doing things the
> natural and expected way may not need a comment to say why it's doing so,
> but a detailed explanation of the context in which the old form made sense
> and how that no longer applies is still appropriate for the commit
> message.
>
> Furthermore, for many pieces of software any bug or new feature will be
> accompanied by testcases that would fail if the change were reverted, and
> seeing what tests fail if a change is made can be a useful way for
> developers to understand what is or is not essential about the current
> implementation of a feature.
>
> That is: I'm not proposing to remove any requirements for comments e.g.
> explaining the semantics of a function, and if there are nonobvious things
> about why some feature of the code is required, I fully encourage comments
> explaining those, and design comments that explain high-level design and
> are kept up to date as that design changes are to be encouraged as well.
> But I do *not* encourage comments that describe how something was changed
> (that belongs in the commit message) - as opposed to (good) comments of
> the form /* This case can occur when X. See test-something.c. */ (or
> "See bug 12345.").
Understood. Sounds reasonable to me, as long as we make it clear that
commit logs are no substitute for explanations in the code, that they
serve a different purpose, as you wrote.
Thanks,
Ludo’.
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, (continued)
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Joseph Myers, 2017/08/01
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Giuseppe Scrivano, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Giuseppe Scrivano, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Giuseppe Scrivano, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Joseph Myers, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Ludovic Courtès, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Joseph Myers, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful,
Ludovic Courtès <=
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Joseph Myers, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2017/08/06
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Joseph Myers, 2017/08/07
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Joseph Myers, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Karl Berry, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, John Darrington, 2017/08/05
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Joseph Myers, 2017/08/07