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Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful
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Alfred M. Szmidt |
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Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful |
Date: |
Sun, 06 Aug 2017 11:02:36 -0400 |
> ChangeLog entries are trivial and quick to write, and save so much
This whole proposal is because they are not at all trivial or quick to
write for the sorts of changes that are common in projects such as glibc
or GCC, which are very different from the small local changes illustrated
in the example ChangeLog entries in the GNU Coding Standards.
Then we should look into ways to make them quicker for these cases
instead of throwing out the baby with the bath water. I showed an
example on how they are easy and quick to write for changes that
affect many similar files, still using the current way of writing
them. If you can show how they are complicated maybe this dicussion
can be turned into something a bit more interesting?
They also serve unnecessarily to isolate GNU from the broader free
software community and discourage people working on a wide range of
free software from contributing to GNU, by adding an additional
GNU-specific format people need to learn that isn't useful
elsewhere, when many extremely active free software projects such
as the Linux kernel have evidently found fully functional ways of
understanding code history and achieving the purposes of ChangeLogs
without the ChangeLog format - ways which are useful extremely
broadly across free software rather than being GNU-specific as
ChangeLogs are.
If ChangeLogs isolate the GNU project some how, I don't know nor is it
very relevant, it just moves the discussion from if they are useful or
not to hypothetical speculation as to what people might or might not
think about topics that can't be quantified.
Linux is also a poor example to highlight how ChangeLog might
hypothetically impede a project seeing that the maintainer is activley
hostile towards our goals, and that Linux includes non-free software
and why we have Linux-Libre
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, (continued)
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Giuseppe Scrivano, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Giuseppe Scrivano, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Giuseppe Scrivano, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Joseph Myers, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Ludovic Courtès, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Joseph Myers, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Ludovic Courtès, 2017/08/05
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Joseph Myers, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful,
Alfred M. Szmidt <=
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Joseph Myers, 2017/08/07
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Joseph Myers, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Karl Berry, 2017/08/04
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, John Darrington, 2017/08/05
- Re: Circumstances in which ChangeLog format is no longer useful, Joseph Myers, 2017/08/07