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Re: [Chicken-hackers] software-type and software-version for android


From: Christian Kellermann
Subject: Re: [Chicken-hackers] software-type and software-version for android
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 21:16:10 +0100
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)

* Moritz Heidkamp <address@hidden> [130228 20:42]:
> Christian Kellermann <address@hidden> writes:
> >> That's not quite true, is it? See
> >> https://android.googlesource.com/platform/prebuilts/ndk/+/master/8/platforms/android-9/arch-arm/usr/include/pthread.h
> >
> > Ah the NDK...
> 
> Right, and the NDK is practically the only way to integrate Chicken with
> Android as far as I know, i.e. in order to build Chicken for Android you
> need to use the NDK toolchain. So this is not tangential, is it?

I don't understand how this is an argument for or against using
"unix" or "android" as the value of software-type.

> > Ok, instead of doing further guesswork, I checked the source.  Well
> > the software type is used to branch off to do system dependend
> > things in csc (generate a manifest for windows), in eval.scm to do
> > the windows dll loading dance. So if you want to support android
> > and will do different things while compiling (providing a correct
> > manifest etc.) having a distinct 'android type still makes more
> > sense to me than declaring it all unix. Android is definitely not
> > unix at all.
> 
> I don't really understand the distinction between the two values from
> their use in the code, actually. For example, in eval.scm
> ##sys#load-library-extension dispatches on both software-type and
> software-version for seemingly the same purpose (granted, it does have a
> comment saying "this is crude..."). In csc.scm, software-type is (as you
> pointed out) to check whether a manifest is to be generated on Windows
> but OTOH software-version is checked for whether to generate ELF
> binaries. This doesn't seem like fundamentally different things to me,
> so I'm a bit confused now. Maybe Felix can enlighten us? :-)

I still think it makes sense to use a distinct value for android
instead of just using unix. Maybe one day you want to generate an
android manifest for your "app"...

I am indifferent to which variable should hold that distinction...

Kind regards,

Christian

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