Re: gnustep.org has been down for the past few days

[Ivan Vučica]

I'm doing the barest minimum of the changes. If the original machine
had MyISAM, I'm using MyISAM. If the installed software was using
MyISAM, I don't want to find out the hard way that the schemas were
mis-defined (given that MyISAM has, particularly back in that era,
been much more liberal with basic concepts such as foreign keys).

I want to minimize the amount of fronts I have to fight MySQL on. I'm
even thinking of dropping down to latin1 and figuring out what to do
later.

I would not choose to start with MyISAM (and where possible I'd also
use Postgres rather than MySQL/MariaDB).



On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 7:13 PM Andreas Fink <afink@list.fink.org> wrote:
>
> why you dont use innodb as engine? much less troubles in case of crashes and 
> reboots
>
>
>
> On Sonntag, Sept. 04, 2022 at 8:02 PM, Ivan Vučica <ivan@vucica.net> wrote:
> Update:
> - I added wiki.gnustep.org to DNS as well -- it was an omission not to
> add it. Please REFRAIN FROM EDITS until further notice as YOUR EDITS
> WILL NOT BE MIGRATED.
> - I am still fighting MySQL/MariaDB:
> - the previous server has an unknown default character set/collation
> (latin1 and not utf8, likely, as I managed to import _gsweb with it)
> - aside from timezone precision of "14" not meaning what the authors
> of schemas meant, it's also deprecated (this was the quickest of the
> fixes, just replace timestamp(14) with new maximum timestamp(6)
> - second fastest fix was TYPE=MyISAM changing into ENGINE=MyISAM
> - the previous server has an unknown timezone configured, and even
> worse, it is unclear what timezone the dates in the dump are in
> - specifically, some of the dates are failing to be inserted as
> they appear to be happening during nonexistent hours during March
> timezone switches
> - entertaining thing: varchar(255) is fine as primary key fitting
> inside MyISAM's 1000 bytes maximum .... as long as utf8mb4 is not the
> character set in use
> - 4 * 255 = 1020
> - even though I suspect the old default was latin1, I am using
> utf8 which still fits inside 1000 bytes
>
> Now, after a few hours of fighting this, I've only completed the first
> out of five databases (gnustep_gsweb.sql, which might not even be in
> use).
>
> The next one, gnustep_mediawiki, is already being painful.
>
> I am unlikely to be done today.
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 10:59 PM Marco Cawthorne <marco@icculus.org> wrote:
>
>
> On 2022-08-30 14:28:54 -0700 Ivan Vučica <ivan@vucica.net> wrote:
>
> I've spent some time today on playing with Ansible thinking it may be
> better to do it sooner rather than later. I'll leave that aside for
> now.
>
> By the time I got to look at restoring MySQL databases, it simply got
> late. Turns out that the database dumps need to be manually fixed
> before they can be imported: schemas have changed between the version
> on the old server and MariaDB 10.x that I have on the new one. It
> should be relatively easy, if possibly labor intensive.
>
> I'll leave it for tomorrow.
>
>
> Thank you for all the work you do and for keeping us updated.
> And thanks to Gregory for the quick redirects. At last we can browse most of 
> the documentation again.
>
> Marco Cawthorne
>
>