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| Submitted by: | Jean-Pierre Doursenaud (jpdoursenaud) | | Submitted on: | 03/10/2012 17:24 |
| Last Modified On: | 03/05/2013 18:34 | |
| Summary: | Recording invoices payments customers |
| Description: | Menu Compta/tréso, Rapports :
Les factures d’acompte client ne doivent apparaître ni dans le journal des ventes, ni dans le chiffre d’affaires. Il n’y a pas d’obligation de les enregistrer, l’enregistrement comptable constate uniquement le règlement en trésorerie.
Source : Mémento Pratique Francis Lefebvre Comptable &656
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Menu Accounting / Tréso, Reports:
Invoices payment customers should not appear in the sales journal or in the sales. There is no obligation to register, recording accounting only recognizes the cash settlement.
Source: Practical Handbook Francis Lefebvre Accounting &656 |
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| Version: | 3.4.0 | | Category: | Other |
| Severity: | 7 | | OS Type/Version: | |
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| Status: | Open | | Assigned to: | Aucun |
| Resolution: | Remind | |
Commentaires- Raphaël Doursenaud 15/10/2013 18:34
- Well, we still disagree here at GPC.solutions and it's giving us headaches regarding how to export these data for accounting in our module.
We still believe that FACTURE_DEPOSITS_ARE_JUST_PAYMENTS=1 should be the default.
At the very least this option shouldn't be hidden anymore and available in the invoice module's configuration interface with a clear explanation of the implications for each mode. - Laurent Destailleur 03/05/2013 18:34
- I asked the book-keeper of the Dolibarr foundation:
- For credit note: The two method can be used (use credit note as a payment or as a line of invoice).
- For deposit: Dolibarr manage deposits are correct (FACTURE_DEPOSITS_ARE_JUST_PAYMENTS on and FACTURE_DEPOSITS_ARE_JUST_PAYMENTS off). I will ask what is better and more frequent to define what should be defautl value of option. - Maxime Kohlhaas 07/03/2013 09:06
- My guess is that deposits are payments in advance and the invoice created for this must be seen as a simple receipt for the payment.
I think FACTURE_DEPOSITS_ARE_JUST_PAYMENTS should be on by default - Maxime Kohlhaas 25/01/2013 16:36
- I just discovered this hidden option and I must say that's exactly how I need it to work.
Have a deposit added as a line in the final bill was not good to me.
Thanks. - Jean-Pierre Doursenaud 07/01/2013 12:19
- En droit français, les factures d'acompte ne font pas partie du chiffre d'affaires, ne rentrent au CA que les opérations réalisées.
Le deuxième comportement est donc celui attendu. En conséquence, les factures d'acompte devront être retirées du journal des ventes.
- Laurent Destailleur 08/11/2012 12:12
- By default, when we make a 10 deposit and an invoice to sell 100, dolibarr create
* a deposit invoice 10
* an invoice 90 (that is 100 with deposit discount).
So to have correct turnover we include deposits into reports.
If option FACTURE_DEPOSITS_ARE_JUST_PAYMENTS is on, when we make a 10 deposit and an invoice to sell 100, dolibarr create
* a deposit invoice 10
* an invoice 100 (and a payment coming from deposit).
In this case, deposit is not included into reports.
Dolibarr support the 2 ways of working. This does not change only the reporting, it also change the way workflow works (deposit is added as a negative invoice line by default, deposit is added as a payment if option FACTURE_DEPOSITS_ARE_JUST_PAYMENTS is on).
Question is, what is the good way of working ?
For the moment, option FACTURE_DEPOSITS_ARE_JUST_PAYMENTS is off by default.
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We still believe that FACTURE_DEPOSITS_ARE_JUST_PAYMENTS=1 should be the default.
At the very least this option shouldn't be hidden anymore and available in the invoice module's configuration interface with a clear explanation of the implications for each mode.
3.2.1→ 3.4.0