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RE: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming
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Drew Adams |
Subject: |
RE: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming |
Date: |
Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:25:37 -0800 |
> The ^L is there so that one could use forward-page to
> quickly move to the next group.
That's great, but it shouldn't be displayed.
If the ^L is not displayed, how do you know that forward-page will
move you there?
`forward-page' looks for the character ^L (control L, form-feed). Wouldn't
Eli's overlay suggestion give a better appearance and still leave the ^L in
the buffer for `forward-page' to find and the printer to interpret as a
form-feed?
More importantly, what the ^L is _really_ there for is to force a page
break if the user prints the stuff off. Obviously, it should be
displayed as is, because the user printing it off should know that
there is going a page break there.
I think the display in a buffer can be made independent of what character is
actually there. The suggestion was to leave the control-L character there,
but display it as, for example, a horizontal line (perhaps with some space
before and after it). That would still let the user know that the printer
would make a page break (provided the convention were explained, as is also
needed to understand that seeing "^L" means a page break).
> We could use overlays to display the ^L as something more visually
> appealing, while leaving ^L in the buffer.
Definitely not, for the reasons above. If there is a ^L in the buffer,
the user needs to know that.
I don't see those reasons. The user needs to see a section delimiter; that's
all. He need not see "^L" (which is just one representation of a form-feed
character, anyway). I think what people are saying is that the form-feed
character should be kept in the buffer, but it should be displayed as
something more user-friendly.
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, (continued)
- RE: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, Drew Adams, 2005/11/11
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, Eli Zaretskii, 2005/11/11
- RE: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, Drew Adams, 2005/11/11
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, Luc Teirlinck, 2005/11/11
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, David Reitter, 2005/11/11
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, Luc Teirlinck, 2005/11/11
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, David Reitter, 2005/11/11
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, Miles Bader, 2005/11/11
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, David Reitter, 2005/11/11
- RE: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming,
Drew Adams <=
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, Eli Zaretskii, 2005/11/12
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, Robert J. Chassell, 2005/11/12
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, David Reitter, 2005/11/12
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, Luc Teirlinck, 2005/11/12
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, Eli Zaretskii, 2005/11/12
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, Miles Bader, 2005/11/12
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, Eli Zaretskii, 2005/11/12
- RE: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, Drew Adams, 2005/11/12
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, Lennart Borgman, 2005/11/11
- Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming, Richard M. Stallman, 2005/11/13