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Re: [gNewSense-users] Re: gNewSense group in launchpad

From: Chris Andrew
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] Re: gNewSense group in launchpad
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:32:30 +0000

I know that Mark Shuttleworth replied to one of my posts and said that
he was working on opening-up Launchpad (I think that is what he

Is there any reason why we can't highlight bugs beyong gNS, using
_reportbug_ or _reportbug-ng_



On 27/03/2008, Sam Geeraerts <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi,
>  As Karl said, this doesn't replace the gNewSense bugtracking system.
>  Also, anyone is free to use Launchpad if he wishes to do so and there is
>  nothing gNewSense can do about that. I guess it would even be against
>  the spirit of gNewSense to restrict someone's freedom to do that. I can
>  also see the benefit in having those bugs reported, on the one hand to
>  help the sister project Gobuntu, on the other hand so those bugs will
>  also be solved upstream which means less work in the future.
>  However, Launchpad seems to be the only way to report bugs to Ubuntu and
>  its non-free nature goes against the spirit of gNewSense. In the short
>  term I see two ways out of this:
>  1. Do not use LP and ask anyone who does so in the name of gNewSense to
>  stop doing it. This could frustrate and alienate people and probably
>  would not work, because gNewSense has no power over them.
>  2. Let people use LP, but ask them to have some kind of disclaimer text
>  in the LP group description saying that it is not part of official
>  gNewSense policy. I don't think anyone would have a problem with this.
>  In the long term it might be good to keep in touch with the Launchpad
>  developers to know why it hasn't been opened up yet, when it will be and
>  what the gNewSense community could do to help speed up that process.
>  This has been asked in evey Ubuntu Open Week session about LP so far and
>  the main reason seems to be that they want to keep it centralized. Don't
>  know if we can do anything about that. They do have the intention to
>  open it up at some point in the future though.
>  Regards,
>  Samgee
>  Chris Andrew wrote:
>  > Hi, everyone.
>  >
>  > I've been following this thread.  Instead of arguing the pro's and
>  > con's of non-free Launchpad, how can we achieve the same objective
>  > (define this), without compromising our stance on freedom?
>  >
>  > Any ideas?
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  >
>  > Chris.
>  >
>  > On 27/03/2008, Yavor Doganov <address@hidden> wrote:
>  >> Karl Goetz wrote:
>  >>  >
>  >>  > In this instance, we would be cutting off our nose to spite our face.
>  >>  > Which helps us not at all.
>  >>
>  >>  Maybe, but it is not worth the degradation of freedom for the sake of
>  >>  the "advance" of the project.  The mere existence of the project is
>  >>  solely related to freedom, so you'll find it hard to convince true
>  >>  believers that using a non-free tool is beneficial for the goal
>  >>  gNewSense has declared to pursue.
>  >>
>  >>  Personally, I turn my face with disgust on acts like these and they
>  >>  irrevocably shake my confidence in the project.
>  >>
>  >>  Remember BitKeeper, the situation is not radically different.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
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