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Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware
From: |
Karl Goetz |
Subject: |
Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware |
Date: |
Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:00:59 +0930 |
On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 11:15 +0300, Markus Laire wrote:
> Karl Goetz wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 09:03 +0300, Markus Laire wrote:
> >> It seems that the current way of doing KFV-work by checking only the
> >> license often leaves sourceless firmware marked as "free".
> >>
> >> Since there are only "few" files which have firmware compared to all
> >> files whose license needs to be checked, it might be best to just
> >> continue this way, and when licenses of all files have been checked, to
> >> separately detect files which contain firmware and then check whether
> >> they are sourceless or not.
> >
> > I disagree.
> > sourceless firmware being marked free is usually a mistake of someone
> > not checking the licence completely - they see "GPL" and move on.
> >
> > Although it wont hurt to recheck firmware at the end, i dont think it
> > should be deliberately left out now.
>
> There are also cases like
> http://wiki.gnewsense.org/Kernel/Ubuntu-hardy-linux-2-6-24-12-22--drivers--media--dvb--ttpci--av7110-hw-c
> where the license itself is normal "GPLv2 or later" and as such
> completely free. Only by checking the whole file and not only the
> license can one see that it contains firmware for which we don't have
> source, and so the file is undistributable.
These things will happen - hopefully automated firmware checks, and
cross checking with other people will help us find these.
>
> What I meant was that person checking the licenses could mark the file
> as "free" if the license is free, even if the file might contain
> sourceless firmware which would make it undistributable.
>
> Because detecting firmware should IMO be done by a script and not
> manually. (Doing it manually would IMO waste too much time.)
This is the script currently used:
http://svn.gnewsense.svnhopper.net/gnewsense/builder/trunk/firmware/find-firmware
(check its directory for other $stuff)
kk
>
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- [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware, Markus Laire, 2008/04/11
- Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware, Karl Goetz, 2008/04/11
- Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware, Markus Laire, 2008/04/11
- Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware, Markus Laire, 2008/04/11
- Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware,
Karl Goetz <=
- Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware, Luis Alberto Guzmán García, 2008/04/21
- Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware, Brian Brazil, 2008/04/22
- Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware, Peter Lutz, 2008/04/22
- Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware, Karl Goetz, 2008/04/22
- Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware, Brian Brazil, 2008/04/22
- Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware, Markus Laire, 2008/04/22
- Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware, Markus Laire, 2008/04/22
- Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware, Brian Brazil, 2008/04/22
- Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware, Markus Laire, 2008/04/22
- Re: [gNewSense-users] KFV: Detecting sourceless firmware, Brian Brazil, 2008/04/22