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[gNewSense-users] Mark Shuttleworth's Rethinking Gobuntu

From: Eric Morey
Subject: [gNewSense-users] Mark Shuttleworth's Rethinking Gobuntu
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:33:20 -0400
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I know that a number of people on this mailing list also read the gobuntu-devel mailing list. However, I thought that those on this list that do not subscribe to gobuntu-devel may be interested in Mark Shuttleworth's message from earlier today.

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject:        Rethinking Gobuntu
Date:   Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:49:22 +0100
From:   Mark Shuttleworth <address@hidden>
To:     gobuntu-devel <address@hidden>

The "current and future" thread on this list has got me thinking. Perhaps we really are on the wrong track, that the only way to meet the needs of the gNewSense folks is to have completely different source packages to Ubuntu. If that is the case, then I think it would be better to channel the energy from Gobuntu into gNewSense.

I had hoped to see more participation and collaboration around Gobuntu because of the benefits of keeping up with the standard Ubuntu (regular releases, security updates etc). However, it seems that the audience for a platform like this is willing to accept infrequent releases and less maintenance in return for a platform which can be modified more radically. That's OK, it's just a bit unexpected - I thought we could get the best of both worlds, with six-monthly releases of something that excluded *binary package* that were controversial in the eyes of the FSF, but retained access to everything else in Ubuntu.

I don't mind having been wrong in that expectation, I can see the arguments in favour of less collaboration in the case where it is more important to be different than to have infrastructure in common, and from what I've seen on this list, the desire to be different (have different source packages as well as binary packages) is stronger than the desire to collaborate (share infrastructure, release cycles etc).

I'm not sure that the current level of activity in Gobuntu warrants the division of attention it creates, either for folks who are dedicated to Ubuntu primarily, or to folks who are interested in gNewSense. I would like us to have a good relationship with the gNewSense folks, because I do think that their values and views are important and I would like Ubuntu to be a useful starting point for them. But perhaps Gobuntu isn't the best way to achieve that.

So, I would like to hear from the gNewSense guys how they would like to be involved in Ubuntu, to help ensure that Ubuntu is a useful starting point for their important work. If Gobuntu is not the best way to achieve that, then I think we should stop working on it and encourage folks who want that to focus their efforts on gNewSense, while at the same time figuring out how Ubuntu can be more useful for gNewSense.


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