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[gNewSense-users] Fwd: Rethinking Gobuntu

From: Chris Andrew
Subject: [gNewSense-users] Fwd: Rethinking Gobuntu
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:58:41 +0100

Last message should have read _compete_, not _complete_ :-)  Sorry.


 On 15/04/2008, Mark Shuttleworth <address@hidden> wrote:

>  The "current and future" thread on this list has got me thinking. Perhaps
 > we really are on the wrong track, that the only way to meet the needs of the
 > gNewSense folks is to have completely different source packages to Ubuntu.
 > If that is the case, then I think it would be better to channel the energy
 > from Gobuntu into gNewSense.
 >  I had hoped to see more participation and collaboration around Gobuntu
 > because of the benefits of keeping up with the standard Ubuntu (regular
 > releases, security updates etc). However, it seems that the audience for a
 > platform like this is willing to accept infrequent releases and less
 > maintenance in return for a platform which can be modified more radically.
 > That's OK, it's just a bit unexpected - I thought we could get the best of
 > both worlds, with six-monthly releases of something that excluded *binary
 > package* that were controversial in the eyes of the FSF, but retained access
 > to everything else in Ubuntu.
 >  I don't mind having been wrong in that expectation, I can see the arguments
 > in favour of less collaboration in the case where it is more important to be
 > different than to have infrastructure in common, and from what I've seen on
 > this list, the desire to be different (have different source packages as
 > well as binary packages) is stronger than the desire to collaborate (share
 > infrastructure, release cycles etc).
 >  I'm not sure that the current level of activity in Gobuntu warrants the
 > division of attention it creates, either for folks who are dedicated to
 > Ubuntu primarily, or to folks who are interested in gNewSense. I would like
 > us to have a good relationship with the gNewSense folks, because I do think
 > that their values and views are important and I would like Ubuntu to be a
 > useful starting point for them. But perhaps Gobuntu isn't the best way to
 > achieve that.
 >  So, I would like to hear from the gNewSense guys how they would like to be
 > involved in Ubuntu, to help ensure that Ubuntu is a useful starting point
 > for their important work. If Gobuntu is not the best way to achieve that,
 > then I think we should stop working on it and encourage folks who want that
 > to focus their efforts on gNewSense, while at the same time figuring out how
 > Ubuntu can be more useful for gNewSense.
 >  Mark

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