Re: [gNewSense-users] Webapps infrastructure

[Karl Goetz]

On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:42:12 -0400
Jean Schurger <address@hidden> wrote:

> > 
> > What do we *need*?
> > - Wiki (community editable)
> > - Bug tracking system
> > - 'locked' website (eg, all our existing www. sites)
> > - supports translations cleanly
> > - all items must integrate
> > - A gmane thingy (what are these services called?)
> > - We have to be able to migrate all our existing data into the new
> > tools (preferably with data intact)
> > 
> > What would be *desirable* (vs needed)?
> > - no track record of regular, large security issues
> > - scalable
> > - well documented
> > - integrates with RCSs (svn+bzr+git as a minimum)
> > - for the BTS, email interface
> > - web interface
> 
> 
> I would recommend 'trac' or 'redmine'

Trac I've worked with - briefly - redmine in new to me.

> 
> about trac: (http://trac.edgewall.org/)
> 
>  advantages:
> 
>   - writen in python, so it easy to understand, write plugins,...

This is particularly nice, as the language its in doesn't need patching
every second day either...

>   - well maintained
>   - have the bugtracker, wiki, integrated with RCS (i'not sure for
> bzr)

I've quickly checked at http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/PluginList :

Subversion ¶

 TracHacks:SvnAuthzAdminPlugin
    a plugin to allow the configuration of the svnauthz file from the
web inferface. 
 TracHacks:TracSvnAuthzPlugin
    a simple web interface to edit the subversion authz files. 
 TracHacks:TracSvnHooksPlugin
    a simple web interface to edit the subversion hook files. 

Version Control Systems

 TracHacks:GitPlugin
    support for the  git DVCS 
 TracHacks:PerforcePlugin
    support for the  Perforce VCS 
TracMercurial
    support for the  Mercurial DVCS 
TracDarcs
    support for the  Darcs DVCS 
 Trac-Bzr
    support for the  Bazaar DVCS 

Which covers the 3 key ones I set out.

>   - It have a nice xml-rpc API
>   - Well documented
>   - A nice web interface
>   - A lot of plugins

So it seems ;)

> 
>  drawbacks:
> 
>   - It realy requires plugins (which exists) for 
>      *  users managment from an web interface
>      *  fine grained permissions (lock some wiki pages/namespace)
>   - It cannot handle multiple projects repositories

This last one could be a problem, as things like git/bzr let everyone
have a repository. (I'll do some research into this one I think).

> 
> about redmine: (http://www.redmine.org/)
> 
>  advantages:
>

(lots)

> 
>  drawbacks:
> 
>   - Writen in ruby (sorry rails lovers, but i think ruby it not the
> most easy language to learn)
>   - XML-RPC is provided by an external project (redmine_mylincon) and
> is not complete
> 
> 
> Both handles the 'mercurial' RCS which is very very efficient and easy
> to use.

Interesting project. Not sure I like the idea of ruby/rails on the
servers though.

kk

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Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS)
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