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Re: [PATCH v1 5/6] site: faq: change x86 to AMD64.
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Adrien 'neox' Bourmault |
Subject: |
Re: [PATCH v1 5/6] site: faq: change x86 to AMD64. |
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Mon, 13 May 2024 11:05:40 +0200 |
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Le dimanche 12 mai 2024 à 23:36 +0200, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli a écrit :
> From: DiffieHellman <DiffieHellman@endianness.com>
>
> Most people using x86 CPUs use the AMD64 ISA, so people are usually
> more interested in 64bit x86 CPUs than 32bit ones.
>
> Signed-off-by: DiffieHellman <DiffieHellman@endianness.com>
> GNUtoo: split, commit message, removed 1 useless change.
> Signed-off-by: Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli <GNUtoo@cyberdimension.org>
> ---
> site/faq.md | 8 ++++----
> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/site/faq.md b/site/faq.md
> index 51ba61b..d9da350 100644
> --- a/site/faq.md
> +++ b/site/faq.md
> @@ -507,15 +507,15 @@ issues, although the implementation is wildly different.
> The Platform Security Processor (PSP) is built in on the AMD CPUs whose
> [architecture](
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_CPU_microarchitectures) is Late
> Family 16h (Puma), Zen 17h or later (and also on
> the AMD GPUs which are GCN 5th gen (Vega) or later). On the CPUs, a PSP
> -controls the main x86 core startup. PSP firmware is cryptographically
> +controls the main AMD64 core startup. PSP firmware is cryptographically
> signed with a strong key similar to the Intel ME. If the PSP firmware
> -is not present, or if the AMD signing key is not present, the x86 cores
> +is not present, or if the AMD signing key is not present, the AMD64 cores
> will not be released from reset, rendering the system inoperable.
>
> The PSP is an ARM core with TrustZone technology, built onto the main
> CPU die. As such, it has the ability to hide its own program code,
> scratch RAM, and any data it may have taken and stored from the
> -lesser-privileged x86 system RAM (kernel encryption keys, login data,
> +lesser-privileged AMD64 system RAM (kernel encryption keys, login data,
> browsing history, keystrokes, who knows!). To make matters worse, the
> PSP theoretically has access to the entire system memory space (AMD
> either will not or cannot deny this, and it would seem to be required to
> @@ -593,7 +593,7 @@ shows that something is seriously wrong with AMD. Like
> Intel, they do
> not deserve your money.
All okay for me at this point.
>
> Given the current state of Intel hardware with the Management Engine, it
> -is our opinion that all performant x86 hardware newer than the AMD
> +is our opinion that all performant AMD64 hardware newer than the AMD
> Family 15h CPUs (on AMD's side) or anything post-2009 on Intel's side
> is defective by design and cannot safely be used to store, transmit, or
> process sensitive data. Sensitive data is any data in which a data
Here, I'm a bit annoyed since we're talking about AMD and Intel implementations,
so I would prefer to stick with x86 here. GNUtoo, what do you think ?
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Adrien Bourmault
Maintainer, GNU Boot project
Associate member, Free Software Foundation
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- [PATCH v1 0/6] Mostly documentation patches from DiffieHellman., Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli, 2024/05/12
- [PATCH v1 1/6] site: status: GNU Boot 0.1 RC3: set KGPE-D16 as tested., Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli, 2024/05/12
- [PATCH v1 2/6] site: faq: Replace "Libreboot" with "GNU Boot" where it makes sense to., Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli, 2024/05/12
- [PATCH v1 4/6] site: faq: fix various spelling mistakes., Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli, 2024/05/12
- [PATCH v1 3/6] site: faq: don't refer to GNU Boot images as ROMs., Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli, 2024/05/12
- [PATCH v1 5/6] site: faq: change x86 to AMD64., Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli, 2024/05/12
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- [PATCH v1 6/6] site: git.md: document research on pseudonymous contributions., Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli, 2024/05/12