Re: [Gnumed-devel] Fwd: Happy birthday Debian Med any announcement of MOM

[Andreas Tille]

:-)

So the message took close to 4 monthes to propagate.  Thanks for
sharing anyway ...

Kind regards

     Andreas.

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:32:06PM +0200, Sebastian Hilbert wrote:
> FYI. 
> 
> Please see the message below. If anyone lurking here feels like helping out 
> by 
> learning how to package and update software for Debian/Ubuntu please feel 
> free 
> to contact the folks of Debian-med.
> 
> Regards,
> Sebastian Hilbert
> 
> Best regards
> ----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
> 
> Subject: Happy birthday Debian Med any announcement of MOM
> Date: Thursday, January 19, 2012, 09:47:44 AM
> From: Andreas Tille <address@hidden>
> To: Debian Med Project List <address@hidden>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm happy to announce that the Debian Med project now has passed its
> 10th birthday which according to [0] should be considered
> 
>    Mon, 7 Jan 2002
> 
> We are now in need of a master of ceremony who makes sure we will not
> forget this date next time.  While we missed the date somehow I propose
> to do a small celebration at the Debian Med sprint at end of January
> in Southport[1].
> 
> I would like to say thanks to everybody who helped the project
> developing from a single person with a crazy idea who started by picking
> up some orphaned biomedical packages to a strong team maintaining a set
> of over 200 highly specialised packages with a high quality standard.
> Many thanks - ten years ago I did not imagine that we could reach that a
> strong state!
> 
> To ensure that this development of a strong team will continue I would
> like to propose a new effort I would like to call
> 
>               "Mentoring Of the Month"  (MOM)
> 
> In this program I would like to dedicate a part of my spare time to a
> newcomer (the "student") providing any packaging knowledge I have to
> enable him working more or less independently on packaging after passing
> this MOM period.  I like to guide the student kindly into all secrets of
> Debian packaging at the example of a specific program which is in the
> focus of the Debian Med team.  The student is free to pick the package
> however, I would like to have a vetoing right in case I see the package
> in some way as "unfit for the MOM project" (too complicated, too
> non-free, too far away from Debian Med topic, too whatever).  At the end
> of the month the goal is that
> 
>    a) The package in question is finished and uploaded
>    b) The student is able to do advanced packaging tasks and is
>       introduced into the communication channels of Debian Med
>       team
> 
> The communication about this should be tagged with "[MOM]" in the
> subject line of the exchanged mails to enable others who might not be
> interested to procmail it out of their focus and enables other potential
> students to learn from this.
> 
> In this MOM process I would like to apply some strict rules:
> 
>   1. If I'm posting something on the list containing [MOM] in the
>      subject the student tries hard to respond with any comment (if not
>      better possible something like:  I have no idea but I will do some
>      research like asking upstream or whatever - just leaving a hint
>      that he feels responsible somehow).
>   2. The student tries to follow any of my commits to the package which
>      is in focus of the MOM plan and favourably sends a comment like
>       - Its OK for me
>       - What does this mean, please explain
>       - I would prefer ... instead of your change
>      To get informed about the changes the student needs to be
>      subscribed to the commit mailing list[2] or at least do regular
>      "svn up; svn log"
>      He just tries to find a useful comment to any commit just to make
>      sure he has understood things and will be able to do it himself
>      in the future.
>   3. The student confirms that he succeeded in building the package
>      according to the state in SVN in case it builds or he is able to
>      reproduce the error message of the build process.
>   4. If there is any problem the student will ask on the Debian Med
>      mailing list (tagging the subject [MOM] to not spam others to much.)
>      This list should be the main communication channel to show others:
>       a) we are working on a problem
>       b) how things could be sorted out via open discussion
>       c) how they could learn things about packaging
>      We can also communicate via #debian-med IRC channel, however
>      the time I have access to the evening hours (MET).
>   5. The student post a status report about the packaging every day
>      reporting about changes he did, issues he faced or discussions
>      he did with upstream etc.
> 
> Please be careful.  The MOM plan is *work*.  While I would like you to
> show that work can be fun I expect the student to do some work in the
> same way as I offer to spend my spare time to do the other part of the
> work which needs to be done.  So I will ask the student whether he did
> his part of the work if I have done mine.  If not I will stop the work
> on this package and will continue with another MOM student and his
> package (in case there might be a waiting list).
> 
> My hope in MOM is that we will be able to train those silent observers
> of the list to become more vocal.  This training not only provides
> technical knowledge.  I learned that this is only 50% of the job.  The
> other part is communication which is heavily underestimated.  I do not
> mean plain chatting - I mean communication which leads straight to a
> technical implementation.
> 
> I'm really keen on seeing whether some students might raise their hand
> to take part in the MOM project.
> 
> Kind regards 
> 
>         Andreas.
> 
> [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/01/msg00454.html
> [1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMed/Meeting/Southport2012
> [2] https://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-med-commit
> [3] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-med-commit/
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