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Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2
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Richard Frith-Macdonald |
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Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2 |
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Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:48:34 +0000 |
On 6 Mar 2012, at 09:21, Wolfgang Lux wrote:
>> Under the current scheme, as long as the application holds a retain on any
>> Obj-C object anywhere in the tree, the entire underlying tree structure and
>> any other Obj-C objects that have been instantiated as part of it are kept
>> in memory. When the final "external" (from outside of the tree) retain is
>> released, the entire structure and all of the objects are freed. A fair bit
>> of complexity internal to the framework to make using the framework simple.
>>
>> So I'm disappointed to hear that Cocoa does it the cheap way! I appreciate
>> that that approach will be simpler to implement and easier to understand the
>> internal GNUstep code, but I wonder if it would be at all worthwhile at this
>> point to allow a "WholeTreeIntegrity" flag to enable a developer to choose
>> either memory behavior. Any thoughts?
>
> I think keeping a pointer to the document root in the object is an easy
> alternative to that. So I'm a bit skeptical whether the additional complexity
> is really worth the effort. On the other hand, you already did invest much of
> the effort :-)
Unfortunately, while the effort may have been made, the result was a scheme
that was relatively hard to understand/maintain and depended on using methods
that Apple have deprecated (yes we could keep them around indefinitely in base,
but I think that's a poor idea in principle ... it's better to impose on
ourselves the same sort of constraints that our users work under).
I think Fred's done great work to simplify the code (so we can more easily make
it work with GC/ARC in future), and *check* that it actually works the same way
as OSX.
Oftentimes I want to do things better than OSX, but even when it clearly *is*
better to do things differently than Apple, it seems to cause us more trouble
(with bug reports etc) than it's worth in the long run.
- Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2, (continued)
- Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2, Fred Kiefer, 2012/03/04
- Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2, Ivan Vučica, 2012/03/07
- Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2, Fred Kiefer, 2012/03/07
- Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2, Ivan Vučica, 2012/03/08
- Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2, Ivan Vučica, 2012/03/17
- Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2, Fred Kiefer, 2012/03/17
- Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2, Fred Kiefer, 2012/03/18
- Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2, Ivan Vučica, 2012/03/19
- Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2, Fred Kiefer, 2012/03/19
- Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2, Wolfgang Lux, 2012/03/06
- Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2,
Richard Frith-Macdonald <=
Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2, Thomas Gamper, 2012/03/01
Re: Unresolved Issues with libxml2, Fred Kiefer, 2012/03/14