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Re: GRUB trusted boot framework
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phcoder |
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Re: GRUB trusted boot framework |
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Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:16:02 +0100 |
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Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) |
Oh, I want!
If I remember correctly, exactly this broke the protection on some game console!
Do you refer to Xbox crack based on King kong game? For once their goal
is the evil one. For second the problem is a buffer overflow in
rendering engine, not the not checking part. If you want to make a
secure system it must be free of such bugs. Or you may as well hash the
whole hd and be hacked through network code. Here is where advantages of
open developement come in play
But how do I get it into every possible loader?
s/grub_gzio_open(filename, 1)/grub_gnupg_open(filename, GZIO_TRANSPARENT)
s/grub_file_open(filename)/grub_gnupg_open(filename, 0)
I also checked the loopback code and it uses the standard grub_file_read, so for
these cases a read version without a hook would be needed.
Then how is your proposition with two file read functions different from
mine with two file read functions? What can be proposed is to merge
somehow all opening functions into one with following protype
grub_file_open (const char *filename, int flags, struct grub_file_info
*info)
Then on opening the function will do the default behavior with possible
override possible through flags. It has an advantage of future
expandability for possible new transparent transformations
By the way we're assuming here, that every file-system driver is free of
exploitable bugs!
To avoid this a real disk read hook would be needed, but of course that is
largely impractical. (There might be options with "sparce" hashing - meaning
only hashing the parts that are actually read, and including the map of read
areas into the final hash)
And then after a minor write or fs self-maintenance it suddenly stops
working. You may as well not boot at all. Perfectly secure booter in 2
bytes of x86-assembly:
eb fe : self: jmp self
Greets,
Jan
Regards
Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
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