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Re: [Gzz] Re: urn-5 article


From: Tuomas Lukka
Subject: Re: [Gzz] Re: urn-5 article
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 14:35:37 +0300
User-agent: Mutt/1.4i

On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 10:54:34AM +0200, Benja Fallenstein wrote:
> Tuomas Lukka wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 11:24:45PM +0200, Benja Fallenstein wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>Tuomas Lukka wrote:
> >>   
> >>
> >>>Some gnutella clients use it.
> >>>     
> >>>
> >>Oh, that's interesting! Can you give a reference? I haven't found one on 
> >>google.
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-talk/2001NovDec/0090.html
> >
> 
> Yes, I found *that*, but it's the article we've discussed before, and 
> even reading it again it does not say that some gnutella clients use 
> urn:sha1. It AFAICS (can see) only says that it's inspired by gnutella, 
> and *proposes* urn:sha1.
> 
> So again, it's AFAIK just one single article thinking about it-- not 
> registered, nobody using it, nobody registering it.
> 
> We could cite the paper above, of course.

http://www.maol.ch/irc/egg2html.php?channel=gtk-gnutella&date=16Jun2002

[20:35] <ram> bluefire: OK, then search.  But it should be "urn:sha1:XXXXXXXX" 
form.
[20:36] <bluefire> ram: You can only add them with "drop results with sha:urn"
[20:36] <bluefire> I mean urn:sha1
[20:36] <ram> Searching for that will be magically turned into a HASH asearch.  
Maybe we need a "Search this URN" instead?
[20:36] <ram> Still, since the URN is useful outside gtk-gnutella, it should be 
possible to copy it out.

> >>The idea was to have the first two points, "Globally unique ids" and 
> >>"Places that don't use globally unique ids currently," as the 
> >>introduction (doing exactly that)... But of course should mention 
> >>urn:urn-5 too.
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >Not necessarily good: the introduction is expected to have references
> >to prior work that's somehow similar. Those two points should probably
> >come in the section *after* the introduction.
> >
> 
> Well, I meant like: "Globally unique ids are this (ref); examples 
> include URIs, IP addresses, (...). Ids that are not globally unique 
> include HTML anchors, (...)." So references to prior work that is 
> somehow similar is exactly the point IMHO.

But maybe starting more generally with identification, and then about
how globality has become important now that the net makes places around
the world accessible.

        Tuomas




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