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Re: 26.1.92, 26.1-mac-7.4; unrecognised escaped chars in *Help*
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Van L |
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Re: 26.1.92, 26.1-mac-7.4; unrecognised escaped chars in *Help* |
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Wed, 06 Mar 2019 11:47:29 +1100 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (berkeley-unix) |
Eli writes:
>> >From the *scratch* buffer, I lookup the keybinding possibilities by
>>
>> C-h b
>>
>> Under the Global Bindings section, the two lines under SPC look to be
>> encoded in Latin-1. I guess Emacs assumes UTF-8.
>
> No, this has nothing to do with encoding. This text is produced by
> Emacs itself … the internal representation of characters in Emacs
> buffers and strings
>> \200 .. 3FF_F7F self-insert-command
>> \200 .. \377 self-insert-command
>
> Yes. This is admittedly confusing, although 100% correct.
But. But. But. Less than 100% beautiful. The out of ASCII range row
terminated by unprintables as visually balanced hex values in a box
would look and feel nicer.
> To start
> digging into what happens here, go to each of the 2 \200's and type
> "C-u C-x =". You will see that these two look identically on display,
> but are actually two very different beasts: the former is a Unicode
> character whose codepoint happens to be 200 octal (0x80 in hex), the
> latter is a raw byte of the same value.
They are born digital homonyms.
> Emacs distinguishes between
> them. The confusing bit here is that they are by default both
> displayed identically,
"C-u C-x =" or M-x describe-char RET puts them in
category: l:Latin
category: L:Left-to-right (strong)
> for dull historical reasons (once upon a time,
> Emacs didn't distinguish between them). (Perhaps there's no longer a
> reason to use this confusing display nowadays.)
Wouldn't it be funny to pull on that string? all the way to the bottom
is tied a boat anchor in the shape of a first of its kind 1950s Chinese
electric computer keyboard invented and made in the U.S.A. which was
being considered a gift to China by the Ike Admin.
> So the first of the above 2 lines stands for all the non-ASCII Unicode
> characters, all of which are bound to self-insert-command by default.
> By contrast, the second row shows all the raw bytes, which are also
> bound to self-insert-command by default.
> IOW, unlike the case with EWW showing incorrectly decoded text, here
> the issue is with how characters are _displayed_,
> And now to your question:
>
>> I know what to do for this kind of situation in EWW, type "E latin-1 RET".
>>
>> What goes here?
>
> Type
>
> M-x customize-variable RET glyphless-char-display-control RET
>
Thank you.
Should I file a bug report for copy and paste inconsistency when trying
to collect in one buffer the `M-x describe-char' output? for the above two.
Highlight region then M-w C-y fails
whereas the middle-mouse button
paste works.
Having done that and attempting to save the buffer presents the
following on problematic characters which makes sense given the above
explanation
-- quote
These default coding systems were tried to encode text
in the buffer ‘x’:
(utf-8 (845 . 4194176) (861 . 4194176) (1376 . 4194176))
However, each of them encountered characters it couldn’t encode:
utf-8 cannot encode these: \200 \200 \200
Click on a character (or switch to this window by ‘C-x o’
and select the characters by RET) to jump to the place it appears,
where ‘C-u C-x =’ will give information about it.
Select one of the safe coding systems listed below,
or cancel the writing with C-g and edit the buffer
to remove or modify the problematic characters,
or specify any other coding system (and risk losing
the problematic characters).
raw-text no-conversion
-- quote ends
--
© 2019 Van L
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- 26.1.92, 26.1-mac-7.4; unrecognised escaped chars in *Help*, Van L, 2019/03/03
- Re: 26.1.92, 26.1-mac-7.4; unrecognised escaped chars in *Help*, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/03/05
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- Re: 26.1.92, 26.1-mac-7.4; unrecognised escaped chars in *Help*, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/03/06
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- Re: 26.2 RC1 copy-and-paste fail, Van L, 2019/03/22
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