Re: plotting problem on Mac OSX

[Ben Abbott]

On Jul 16, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Chris Daamen wrote:

> Op 16 jul. 2013, om 22:21 heeft Ben Abbott het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Chris Daamen wrote:
>> 
>>> Op 16 jul. 2013, om 21:40 heeft Ben Abbott het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Chris Daamen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>> I'm using Octave version 3.4.0 running on OSX Mountain lion, and I have
>>>>>>> installed X-Code 4.6.1, AquaTerm 1.1.0, X11 2.7.2 and Gnuplot too. But
>>>>>>> nothing still happens when I'm trying to plot a graph. Just AquaTerm 
>>>>>>> Opens
>>>>>>> and nothing else happens. 
>>>>>>> please someone help me with this.
>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I assume you installed an application bundle for Octave?  Maybe one 
>>>>>> recommended by Coursera?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are some problems with running the application bundle on Lion and 
>>>>>> Mountain Lion.  Some people have been successful, but others have 
>>>>>> problems.  The problem may be that your copy of gnuplot was built to use 
>>>>>> a different version of Aquaterm than the one you have installed.  To fix 
>>>>>> that, just uninstall Aquaterm .. often gnuplot comes bundled with 
>>>>>> Aquaterm (buried in the gnuplot application bundle).  If that doesn't 
>>>>>> fix the problem for you, you can try using the x11 terminal.  From 
>>>>>> Octave's prompt, just try ..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  setenv GNUTERM x11
>>>>>>  plot (rand (3))
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In general, we recommend you use one of the package managers available 
>>>>>> for Mac OSX (Fink, Macports, or Homebrew).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  http://wiki.octave.org/Octave_for_MacOS_X
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please uninstall the version Aquaterm you have before trying to run 
>>>>>> Octave installed using any of these package managers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ben
>>>>> 
>>>>> For what its worth, I am on Lion, and used the strategy as I outlined 
>>>>> before. I do get nice plots in both the ways I explained.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris, I was typing my reply when you responded.  The response is exactly 
>>>> what is needed for those who wish to install the Octave 3.4.0 bundle on 
>>>> Lion or Mountain Lion.
>>>> 
>>>> If you're inclined to help out further ... it would be nice if someone 
>>>> added the information to the wiki.  We'd prefer that users use a package 
>>>> manager (which supports the most recent release), but for those who prefer 
>>>> an app-bundle, it would be nice to add a subsection to the end of the page 
>>>> below (should be added just below the warning).
>>>> 
>>>>    http://wiki.octave.org/Octave_for_MacOS_X#Installing_a_Mac_OS_X_Bundle
>>>> 
>>>> Ben
>>>> 
>>> Ben,
>>> 
>>> I would certainly like to help further. I myself definitely prefer an app 
>>> bundle above a packet manager. I actually looked into what would be 
>>> necessary to compile Octave into such a bundle myself, but there seem to be 
>>> difficulties that are larger than my limited programming experience can 
>>> handle. If there is anything I could do (test, I guess) I'd love to do 
>>> that. 
>>> In the meantime I'll study a bit more on the subject. I know how to compile 
>>> applications on OSX when they are written for OSX (and not too 
>>> complicated), but not yet how to make UNIX applications into an OSX app 
>>> bundle. A simple wrapper that fires up a Terminal is fine, as long as all 
>>> the required dependencies are in the bundle and the bundle can be anywhere, 
>>> and install is drag and drop from the dmg into the desired location. If you 
>>> have knowledge of resources to learn more on this, resources a bit simpler 
>>> than this 
>>> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/porting/conceptual/portingunix/portability/portability.html
>>>  I would love to hear about it, so they can contribute to my learning route.
>>> I will look into updating that wikipage.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>> 
>> I just noticed, we have a page for the changes already, but they need to be 
>> updated.
>> 
>>      http://wiki.octave.org/Installing_Mac_OS_X_Bundle
>> 
>> Regarding an app-bundle, there' s a page for that as well.
>> 
>>      http://wiki.octave.org/Create_a_MacOS_X_App_Bundle_Using_MacPorts
>> 
>> Manually creating a bundle is too tedious to be reliable.  However, I think 
>> it is possible to automate the process. Unfortunately, I haven't had the 
>> spare time work on it, and don't know when I'll get back to it.
>> 
>> Ben
>> 
> That first link you gave, is the same link I gave in my first post in this 
> thread. I don't quite see how to update that page, apart from maybe not 
> mentioning vim if the page is supposed to target people that prefer 
> application bundles over package managers. The editing of Gnuplot can easily 
> be done with a 'normal' (as in: normal to OSX users) text editing 
> application. 
> If you appreciate such updating I'd be happy to do that.
> 
> Do you have access to Sourceforge where the OSX bundle is now hosted? If so, 
> can I send you a file to replace the current OSX bundle, with one that 
> contains exactly the same bundle as the current one offered on Sourceforge, 
> but then with a Gnuplot with the wrongly hardcoded DYLD references corrected. 
> I know version 3.4.0 is out of date, but it works, and to provide a corrected 
> Gnuplot (as instructed in the wikipage also you mentioned) would be easy. 
> 
> I had read through the second link you provided earlier. Since I did not 
> understand all of it, and the resulting bundle is apparantly huge compared to 
> the current one, I have parked it. Thanks for reminding me.
> 
> Chris

Carnë,

Can be update the Mac OSX bundle on sourceforge?

Ben